jnemesh t1_j3y7onp wrote on January 11, 2023 at 9:51 PM

The ONLY successful hardware MS has EVER produced has been their mice and keyboards. Everything else has been a dumpster fire. UltimateTV (Tivo Competitor), Kin, Windows Phone, Zune...EVERY last time they get into hardware, they fail. And yes, I am including Xbox here. (RRoD anyone?)

Of course, their software isn't so great these days either...companies like MS continue because of inertia, NOT because they are making the best stuff out there....and because when anyone comes close to making a product that is actually competitive, they just crush them into oblivion, or buy them out.

detectiveDollar t1_j4ihqqw wrote on January 15, 2023 at 11:25 PM

Surfaces have been pretty good overall. Red ring of death was 15 years ago dude, Xbox's since late 2008 have been solid.

jnemesh t1_j4lgjg2 wrote on January 16, 2023 at 3:41 PM

Lots of quality issues with the Surface line too...although they have been getting better. Still overpriced for what they are, though.

And I don't care if it was 15 years from the RROD. They followed THAT up with forced Kinect integration, and were trying to foist heavy handed DRM on everyone to kill the 2nd hand software market...it was only through IMMENSE consumer backlash that they backed down on both...and only on Kinect after sales were affected.

The fact remains that MS is a miserable company when it comes to hardware.