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olqerergorp_etereum t1_j461mjh wrote

Reply to comment by CthuluTheGrand in The Fairphone 2 will hit end-of-life after 7 years of updates by ennuinerdog

every high end or studio quality headphone uses wires instrans of Bluetooth because the difference in quality is easily recognizable.

if you like Bluetooth and have never tried professional headphones o luxury quality headphones, i don't fault you, but nobody that takes seriously their gear is going to mix or market music with Bluetooth headphones lol.

not because something is new it's going to be instantaneously better than what came before, wired headphones still have plenty of big benefits over wireless headphones.

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CthuluTheGrand t1_j464ja6 wrote

Ah yes, the ol' audiophile argument.

So what "luxury" headphones are we talking about? I use XM4s, they are wireless and have good sound quality in relation to the source. As in a phone, using spotify. Which is what most people use.

And if you want to use your 10k studio headphones with a cord dangling from your pocket then how does a USB C adapter change anything?

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olqerergorp_etereum t1_j469a06 wrote

>So what "luxury" headphones are we talking about? I use XM4s, they are wireless and have good sound quality in relation to the source

that doesn't even come close to be high end, audiophile, studio/monitor quality and not even a shadow of what luxury means on headphones.

>spotify. Which is what most people use.

yes, but Spotify its not a great source for music anymore, between tidal and apple music, you can hear a big difference in quality that only becomes more evident the better gear you use.

>And if you want to use your 10k studio headphones with a cord dangling from your pocket then how does a USB C adapter change anything

totally annoying to have another thing to worry about, and can be loose easily, also, when you use a case most USB adapters become incompatible due to the fit. also, yet another thing you have to spend money on. I can go on all day on why I don't like adapters, I'll better ask YOU, why do you like them to being with?

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olqerergorp_etereum t1_j46j99l wrote

>you just told them their XM4s were bad, which isn't true.

because they are, it is truth. they're decent if you need headphones with active noise cancellation, but compared to open headphones, they sound like ass. this is factually true due to how ANC technology works, you cannot make a ANC headphone and expect the audio quality of a pair of HD600 for example.

>You didn't really address why Spotify "is not a great source for music anymore."

low quality low bitrate music, sounds worse and this is factually true, again, it's not something I'm making up, Spotify is not lossless, has never been.

>Most people who support adapters do so because it allows for one less hole on their device and a slimmer profile for aesthetic purposes.

and thanks to that one less port, now you cannot use wired headphones while charging your device, bravo.

>People who know about hardware also like adapters sometimes because you no longer have a single point of failure for headphone connections. It's easier to replace an adapter than replace the headphone port on your phone

I've NEVER, EVER seen a headphones jack failing, but I've had lots of cables fail due to natural bending of the cable due to normal use. I've never ever had the necessity to change a headphone jack on my phone, not even on the phones that fell into water, the headphone jack always worked just fine.

>Additionally, is you're really obsessed with "luxury audio," you'd almost certainly need to buy an external DAC for your phone because the built-in one is nowhere near audiophile quality, which would require using a different port anyway.

I already have a DAC and they can connect either via the standard 3.5 jack or USB c jackz i don't really understand your point here, what's the problem with having headphones jacks? just aesthetic? just a slimmer phone that you won't even notice in daily usage??

I'm not trying to make you mad here or sound condescending. I'm not a native English speaker so sorry for my tone. and please don't feel offender because I said the XM4 were bad, they're not, but they're average at best, I've used them before, and they just aren't high fidelity headphones, they're bassy headphones for the general market and that's ok because that what works with most people, but not for those who look for true high quality audio.

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