First I look at how many hours per day professional gamers spend practicing each day. 1-2? 6-8? If the game asks that from me in grinding hours for unlocks, if the game wants to be my full-time job, I think I'm justified in calling this unreasonable and buying a different game.

Submitted by AmeSame5654 t3_zyieip in gaming

Grind to improve skill? Respectable. No matter what game.

Grind hours away for imaginary coins or whatever I need to compete with the pay-to-wins? Pass. I won't waste my time validating their money.

I don't respect people who dismiss such a basic piece of logic out of hand for being what they don't want to hear.

I respect world record holders. I respect those who want to BE world record holders. I don't respect those who waste ten hours a day, seven days a week, on Isekai Demon Waifu or games like it. You're not growing, you're stagnating. It's sad that you don't understand the difference.

I will not grind for sixty hours in Pokemon for the optimal team composition in Pokemon Black and White. I won't grind for fourty hours or twenty hours or two hours. I don't care if people call it "cheating" for me to spend more hours fighting people with the team and fewer hours grinding for the team. I can't take time off work for gaming.

Whatever happened to cheatcodes that unlocked everything? Oh, right, companies realized they can make more money selling convenience back to you after lengthening the grind to an unbearable degree. It exploits the most vulnerable at the expense of everyone who plays a worse game because of them, and they'll make any excuse to validate their own exploitation because of the sunk cost fallacy.

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pessimistoptimist t1_j260fbq wrote

yup buy a different game. Best to get a game that fits your lifestyle.

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SardonicSeraphim t1_j260n2i wrote

No one is telling you to grind you’re imposing it on yourself and whining when there isn’t a shortcut available.

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PachukoRube t1_j261br3 wrote

How long does Adderall last for? I reckon it’s that long.

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AmeSame5654 OP t1_j27ansf wrote

Replying to pessimistoptimist (#1,160,395)

It's amazing how hateful people get when you bring up lifestyle limitations.

And I mean amazing in a negative sense. They'll say "It's only 20 hours of grinding 2 hours a day to get this rare drop" and if I tell them I don't HAVE two straight hours of free time every day out of seven days a week...

It turns them fucking feral. Doesn't matter to them if you have kids, a job, a life, they think the game should come first. I thought that mindset would be left behind when World of Warcraft raiding guilds died out, but no, it kept itself alive through the magic of the sunk cost fallacy.

Ask "Why would I spend all that time on repetitive grinding content or fourty dollars in microtransactions when I could spend that money on food or an exciting experience or my loved ones?" and they'll screech at you like you're the devil and you've eaten their Cat. You're a threat to their ability to continue enjoying their hobby. Your existence is a stark reminder of all they gave up to satisfy their primal urges for higher number without ever actually improving their aim, driving ability, fighting game fundamentals, or anything else a skill-based game can help you with.

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pessimistoptimist t1_j2ex446 wrote

Replying to AmeSame5654 (#1,169,798)

I have a bunch of games i wouldove to play but they dont fit my lifestyle. I dont have 2hour stretches that i can play. I am limited to 30min stints here and there. So i have to choose games that fit that style. What gets to people, myself included, is when people use cheats and mods online and screw everyone elses good time. If you dont have time to do the grind like everyone else then dont but/play that game online.

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