ThatsNotEnoughCheese t1_iu6b427 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 9:43 PM

Reply to comment by aknabi in A missile hits near a café in Ukraine. (Safe For Work) by Alabussy

Yeah, no. Maybe don’t call people sum human for what their government is doing. Propaganda is a hell of a thing

Technic235 t1_iu6f9cu wrote on October 28, 2022 at 10:14 PM

Agreed. Regardless of ethnicity or location there are always good and bad people. Generalizing/grouping people on one trait only is devolved thinking.

Oblivion_Unsteady t1_iu6m7jx wrote on October 28, 2022 at 11:09 PM

Not op, but it's Russian lives that should be lost fighting the Russian government, not Ukrainian lives. Every free living Russian is responsible for every Ukrainian death because they were too much of a coward to put their own lives on the line. They make a choice to put themselves (the ones responsible for their government) above innocent people.

Russians are complicit. Propaganda or not, they crafted this situation every day of their lives and they are responsible for the results. Fuck your "hate the government not the people" bullshit. The people are the government and if they truly wanted this to stop, it would have stopped or they'd be dead.

SurturOfMuspelheim t1_iu6s60v wrote on October 28, 2022 at 11:57 PM

So you supported the American actions that killed millions in the middle east, South America, and continue to harm people today? The millions in weapons support to cause more deaths (And push American foreign policy!) but the sheer lack of humanitarian aid?

I mean, why didn't you just attack the US Government? Oh, because you care about your life, friends and family? Or is it just propaganda?

Stupid fucking argument. The Governments of Russia and Ukraine are responsible for this shit, not the people.

_Administrator_ t1_iu7gb5z wrote on October 29, 2022 at 3:19 AM

I thank the USA for getting rid of monsters like Saddam, Osama and Gadhafi. Most people in the middle east died because of terrorists and not because of NATO forces.

You compare the USA to Putin? You blame the government of Ukraine for this? Disgusting...

SurturOfMuspelheim t1_iu7so7d wrote on October 29, 2022 at 5:32 AM

LMAO are you serious right now?

Saddam was bad but what the US did there caused untold destruction, death, and misery.

Gaddafi was LIKED by his people and you can speak to any Libyan and they will say they missed him. He was a unifying force in Africa and wasn't pro-US Imperialism and that's why he was murdered.

The US is leagues worse than Putin. If you don't think there isn't blame on both Russia and Ukraine then maybe fucking pay attention to something other than Reddit.

Fucking disgusting. You enable this sick disgusting shit our government does.

aknabi t1_iuem369 wrote on October 30, 2022 at 7:12 PM

I am the OP and indeed basically my point... as much as it pains me I believe the right wing fascists (USA or elsewhere) will continue to grow in power simply because so many get their underwear in a bunch over "finding and correcting the right vocabulary in order to have a dialog about a inclusive conservation to discuss equity across stakeholders" or some other navel gazing bullsh*t to avoid having to fight the fight. In the meantime those fascists douchebags are taking away rights, territory and country... yeah buddy, we're in a war and propaganda is a serious part of it... and yeah if Russians don't want to make the sacrifice to get rid of Putin, F them... same thing in the US... if the country (this includes independents and liberals) doesn't want to step up to stop this white nationalist fascism (which just means getting up early, standing in line for day and jumping through whatever hoops are being used to stop the vote)... then F them as well.

I find I odd that a few folks downvoted you... guess they miss Saddam, Osama and Gadhafi... and seeing by up votes can tell either the trolls are here or some serious dumbfuqs.