Submitted by blucsigma05 t3_116hxg3 in headphones
JamesBong517 t1_j984nfc wrote
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This is confirmation that getting the Clear Mg Pro is the logical choice. My nicest pair right now is HD 600 & I figured I’ll just save money and hearing my gf complain about buying too many headphones, I’ll just jump right up in the big leagues.
I know you have the OG Clear, but any negatives one can think of? Also, what amp/DAC are you running
blucsigma05 OP t1_j989mdg wrote
I'd say just the typical open back issues, depending on environment volume may need to go louder, but I just drive them either with my DAP (fiio m11 plus), or bluetooth with my ifi go blu bluetooth dac. I haven't had any comfort issues I love how the Clears fit and everything just sounds great to me.
JamesBong517 t1_j989vyl wrote
Have you ever heard the Clear Mg Pro? It kinda seems like the OG Clear are more towards consumers and have a U shaped tuning versus the mg pro being more flat and neutral. I love how the Hd 600 doesn’t really color the music or anything, at least I thought. Could be wrong. I just don’t wanna regret a purchase of $1000 or so.
blucsigma05 OP t1_j98anwi wrote
I haven't, I was thinking MG because I read it was more bass-heavy, but the Clear seem to be more of the favorite overall from my research, and it's half the price now so I went with the Clear OG. No complaints. I bought them final sale so I definitely understand but honestly it's the best headphone purchase I've made.
JamesBong517 t1_j98bjf3 wrote
It almost has me tempted to buy both. Even if I buy the OG first and absolutely love them, I will always be wondering what the other sounds like. FOMO is a major thing. I just can reason having both of those headphones & keeping both, because at that point, I might as well just get the Utopia lol. Which, yes that has crossed my mind, but then I’m wondering is there any more improvement after a certain point, and I’ve talked myself out of the Utopia. I just don’t have the funds to justify spending $3k+ on headphones. I also haven’t even experienced the $1k range & I know there’s so many more than perfect ones in there. I know new versions isn’t always better, as I found the HD 600 to be the best version for me.
Also, I see our music tastes are very different, and I see you said you like bass heavy music. I typically am listening to a lot of strings music (yes I know plenty of strings do have deep bass) and live performances and what not. So clarity and instrument separation in big mixes is important to me. Upon reading about every article I could find, once I have the money, I’m going to buy the Clear Mg Pro and I will come back with all the good, bad, and ugly.
blucsigma05 OP t1_j98dciw wrote
Let me know, seems like those with my preference prefer mg more so I'm a little curious, but the Clears just sound so good that if I did upgrade it would have to be utopia, but like you, I just can't imagine they sound 3-4x better than either clear to justify the price. Diminishing returns is very real pass 1k.
JamesBong517 t1_j98eeib wrote
It’ll probably be in a month and half; I start a new job this week and there’s a big gap between my last paycheck and my first full one, so it’ll be probably 3 paychecks before I get them. I’ll DM you so I can remember to let you know.
I want to eventually get the DCA Aeon 2 Noire to have a set of closed back headphones, in case I ever have kids or anything of that nature. Besides that, at a certain point I was told you basically are just picking what you want it to be the best at (HD 800s for soundstage) but something else will be a trade off. And someone else told me it’s very a massive drop in diminishing returns after the $1500 price. The Utopia’s will sound better than the Clear, without a doubt. It definitely won’t sound 3-4x better though.
Eventually I might make that jump, as time passes & I move up within my career path. But that will have to be in a very long time. Not just to have that kind of money, but I’m also going to upgrade my DAC next & same kind of thing. I want the RME-ADI 2, but it’s probably pointless to get something at that level. Something like $700 would be just fine with no real upgrade in sound, maybe just had more connection tires or something. That’s the kick in the dick of this hobby; FOMO and massive diminishing returns
blucsigma05 OP t1_j98g138 wrote
Trust I understand I tried a lot of phones. Finally, just got burnt out and realized I'm always gonna have FOMO. I listen to the noire I did like them, they just didn't sound better than my wife's radiance so I didn't keep them but very good phone at the price. I like the Sony MDR-Z1R, just grappling with the cost a little, but I like the sound and they are extremely comfortable.
JamesBong517 t1_j98gsxr wrote
Is the Radiance better than the MDR-Z1R, in your opinion? I do eventually want to get a pair of closed back headphones. Part of me thinks it would make more sense to not have all my headphones the same brand, and the other thinks “if you found what you love, why change it”
But ya, i listen to a lot of like vocal songs and classic rock, opera, pop. I really enjoy the HD 600 and how they are but I know there can be so much more clarity. With knowing that, are the OG Clear a great option? They aren’t v or u shaped tuning are they?
blucsigma05 OP t1_j98ma5c wrote
My testing Playlist has a ton of genres. I think the radiance are very good. For me I have a weird issue with the cups on the radiance my left ear feels a lot of pressure, no one else I let try them didn't have that issue, I've had it with other closed back it just depends. The mdr-z1r is just a different sound than the focals which i enjoy they are very v shape, but vocals sound great. The radiance are great but to me it just was a redundant sound as focal does have a "house sound" so they feel like Clears with more bass. Mdr-z1r is very warm, didn't really understand that term until I tried them. The noire the mids were just more recessed than the radiance you can easy eq that I just don't do much eqing.
For me the "clear" is emphasized on the Clears more than any headphones I have(besides some iems ive tried). The Clears allowed me to hear so much new detail from songs I've heard a million times. Some don't like the Soundstage of the Clear for open back it's very intimate, but not veiled it's very clear and forward. I don't want to oversell them but I just don't think you can go wrong picking them up. I've never heard the HD 600 but I know they are loved.
JamesBong517 t1_j98neq8 wrote
Looks like you and everyone sold me on the og clear. So glad I made the post. You also confirmed what I figured— at that price point I’m getting different brands. I want different sounds from my closed back & sometimes (especially with video games and movies) the V shaped is really nice. And when I’m in the mood to put on gangster rap I want that bass. So when I go to buy closed back, I’m first looking at the mdr-z1r. I know it’s expensive, but oh well. I want the clear first, and the much smaller price I can justify it for me getting a new job and it being my first salaried job. Gotta treat myself. The Sony— well we get a yearly bonus and I’ll be able to get them then & have left over money so I won’t feel bad. Figure if we reach our goals I can treat myself as well once a year. Not always headphones, but you get my drift.
blucsigma05 OP t1_j98oapn wrote
Yup! Worth it, going to use them a lot, so you can justify the cost! Enjoy the journey man! Definitely let me know what you think of those Clears and MDR-Z1R. I'd say try those Noire too for close back. I love rap on my Clears, bass is there when needed and not overdone. It's rap so if the song is supposed to have bass it's there just not exaggerated.
JamesBong517 t1_j98p2zm wrote
Sounds the HD 600 to me. So many people say there is no bass, but to me, in songs that had it, it was there. Just not bloated or anything? Are you saying to check out the Noire just because it punches above its price point, is it a real contender to the z1r?
blucsigma05 OP t1_j98qrmf wrote
I'd say just to have a good reference, the Noire is half the price of mdr-z1r...Mdr-z1r is better to me, is it worth 2x as much compared to the Noire...you have to decide. I think you would prefer the midrange on the Mdr-z1r.
JamesBong517 t1_j98t21v wrote
I definitely do not like my midrange muffled or veiled or recessed or whatever the word is. Although closed back is much further down the road & im honestly hoping the Clear will take care of my upgrade-itis for the foreseeable years. I’ll probably get the ADI-2 after the Clear, just because I feel like if I have headphones that are $1500, a $110 DAC just isn’t doing it justice. Plus the ADI-2 has an input for XLR for headphones, and it has XLR output for studio monitors, which I plan on getting. It also has built in EQ, which saves me from buying an external EQ.
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