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daddyyeslegs t1_jdyznhg wrote

Reply to comment by SupOrSalad in Quick question why do we not see coaxial speakers in headphones that often? by Drago-0900

But why is it so prominent in IEMs? It's not like single driver IEMs are bad, far from it, but there's a lot more products out there that use multiple drivers. Is it a lack of innovation in that area, or are there inherent problems with the placement of the drivers in headphones that isn't an issue in IEMs?

I can only really think of imaging being an issue, but there's plenty of headphones with kinda shoddy imaging.

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blargh4 t1_jdz1x93 wrote

"moar drivers = moar better" marketing sizzle?

while I'm sure you could make some reasonable case for a 2-way setup to separate high and low frequencies, a lot of the IEM market seems rather over the top, given what you can clearly do with 1DD.

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daddyyeslegs t1_jdzb0mi wrote

Bah, I don't care for the half a dozen BA with like 3 DD setups. But the truthear zero does something genuinely interesting with the woofer that I don't think would be completely unreasonable in a headphone. If anything, the benefits of deeper and more impactful bass make more sense with the increased real estate a headphone can rumble your ears with.

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daddyyeslegs t1_jdzarmo wrote

Have you not heard of people hooking up their headphones and having an external subwoofer hooked up as well? It sounds like the people who do that enjoy it. I'm sure it will be jarring, but I don't want to be overly dismissive of something that could genuinely work if properly developed.

And idk, is that idea really any more jarring than Sennheiser imaging being 3 distinct and seperate fields? They're just different flavors of "bad imaging" aren't they? But if it's possible to have a woofer handle the bass, we can get away with some pretty hefty subbass boosts and extension (with impact) without compromising the tuning of the mids and treble.

Do you have the names of the products that tried this before? I can only think of the nuraphone, but I'd love to see what has been tried before.

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daddyyeslegs t1_jdzdvaw wrote

Oh wow, those look horribly tuned. Though i don't know how you can be so confident about the location of the audio being so incredibly jarring when you haven't ever heard a product that does it remotely well... Because it doesn't exist.

The surround sound thing I don't see ever being a good idea until we move beyond stereo, which I don't see happening for a long time.

I guess we will just wait and see if anyone competent dares to experiment with it. I bet if someone pitched the idea of planar magnetics 70 years ago they'd have gotten much the same response. I'm sure you had people saying it must sound awful and be way too difficult to tune then too!

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daddyyeslegs t1_je0fzkf wrote

Ohhhh... You're one of those redditors. You just want to argue and get the last word in. You're not actually interested in discussion.

Sorry man, I'm not interested. You won your argument, congratulations!

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