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1080pin4k OP t1_itaqh6y wrote

Reply to comment by chunmaru in Crinacle's Discord Server is Toxic by 1080pin4k

I'm not able to post what I personally posted or other comments because they banned me from the server. I would gladly be transparent about it, let them share whatever they want. It's hard for one person to defend themselves against a mob when it's easy for people to side with the party that has more people. Literally, mob mentality.

I can defend my statements in a court, but biased mods and other toxic individuals speak as if they alone determine what is true.

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chunmaru t1_itaqqxv wrote

You are unable to post other comments due to being banned yet somehow you've created this post with 3 screenshots from the server? And said 3 screenshots are all conveniently from starboard without any context whatsoever, its pretty easy to see what you're going for with this post OP.

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1080pin4k OP t1_itar837 wrote

Before I was banned, I was kicked. When I was kicked, I was able to see one channel with pinned comments like those. After an hour, I was banned because the mods saw me complaining about the server in other places.

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chunmaru t1_itarioq wrote

Forgot to mention said other places included sharur's apple house sound server huh.

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1080pin4k OP t1_itarxzo wrote

Just look at the relevant facts. You decide what you think about the 8XX from your own research. But the behavior of their members speaks for itself, you can see how they treat people who promote an audio product they dislike or misunderstand. It doesn't matter if I was even wrong about the topic, they were still very toxic and it's inexcusable behavior.

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1080pin4k OP t1_itarr1k wrote

Sharur dislikes Crinacle, and I don't agree with his opinions, but they are willing to listen about criticism of his community. I respect Crinacle, but I don't respect his toxic community and mods.

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chunmaru t1_itaskqo wrote

So you simply prefer communities that validate your opinions and past actions? Because your time spent in crinacle's server was spent trying to get people to agree with and/or validate your opinions, as your statements were objectively wrong, the mods put you in their place as per the rules. Moderating according to the rules you AGREE with when you first enter the server is toxic to you?

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1080pin4k OP t1_itav0vr wrote

You could share measurements and graphs, and those can be reliable, but everyone gets different measurements. Also, you have to trust that the person correctly modded and measured the product. Even the people who are best at measuring make mistakes on measurements, both crinacle and oratory had issues in the past. I would still trust their measurements, but in this one case, oratory was the only measurement I saw and he admitted he didn't fully remove an adhesive material that was impacting the tuning. When I asked him about this, he admitted that if he was able to fully remove it, it would have changed the sound to some degree but he didn't get that far. I could see how this amount of effort turns off many people, but some people are willing to put in work for something if they're saving money.

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RandomUser23447274 t1_itawlj2 wrote

Smartest Sharur fan

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1080pin4k OP t1_itaxf3b wrote

Is it really hard for people not to assume things? I'm not a Sharur fan, I was a member of the server purely for entertatinment. In fact I never agreed with them about their views on Crin. After my experience, I thought they would appreciate hearing about my experience but they didn't. People just don't care to hear out someone who wasn't towing the line with a group. It's sad that people don't give everyone a fair shot, but I know I can't expect people to be as unbiased and critical as a courtroom.

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1080pin4k OP t1_itaujyt wrote

I just don't understand the mentality that it's somehow wrong for someone to debate opinions about a headphone product in a headphone product community. I don't have a right to defend my opinions? Also the accusation of false statements, I just don't understand how it can be said that I gave any false statements about my defense of the headphone. I don't mind if people disagreed with me aboout it, I mind that people were toxic especially the people who are supposed to be unbiased and moderate rules for things like harassment or bad behavior, not headphone opinions. If my opinion was bad, let them state it was bad and leave it alone.

Now yes I pushed some buttons with overspeaking on the topic, but only to defend myself against their accusations. For things unrelated to the headphone topic, I admitted fault. I still think it's toxic behavior on their part.

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1080pin4k OP t1_itaurlf wrote

Also there was no definitive proof about the objectivity of claims, I can't objectively prove that modding the 8xx would make it the same as the 800s or whatever, I only said it was my experience and that I personally recommended it. Why is it wrong to express a recommendation, I'm not a reviewer or license holder, I'm just another audio consumer sharing their beliefs about a product.

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