Nr48 t1_ixgye4g wrote on November 23, 2022 at 10:53 AM

The App on both is not required. Only need it for a first setup (Codec, Latency), firmware update or if you want to adjust the EQ.

If you want to use it with a TV latency becomes a big part. The BTR5 supports APTX low latency which is great. The Q5k does not but you can use Aptx or Aptx HD and set the buffer size in the Q5k to low (in the app, once). Then the latency comes close to Aptx low latency.

I wouldn't pair the BTR5 / Q5k with the TV, even if it should support Bluetooth. I would get a bluetooth transmitter and connect it via toslink to the TV. Important is it supports aptx low latency too

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Similar set up I am using for years.

The qudelix has no problem to connect to the TV transmitter and the phone at the same time. The BTR5 can too but I had some noise then.

For harder to drive headphones, or if you dont like apps at all or prefer a volume knob, I can recommend the ifi xCan. It supports aptx low latency too.

Bluetooth open backs: Deva, Ananda BT, Grado GW100, koss porta pro BT, Koss clip on BT. Most of them will not provide aptx low latency, so lip synch problems could appear.

Toronto-Will t1_ixh0wh9 wrote on November 23, 2022 at 11:26 AM

I have been tinkering over the past few months with my TV headphone setup and agree with all this. I don’t have specific experience with the firestick but my TV has Bluetooth out. My cat would immediately chew a headphone cable if I plugged it into my receiver, so I got a Qudelix to try and use Bluetooth instead. It was okay with the buffer size set to minimum, but the lip sync was off just enough, it bothered me. I’d ultimately suggest avoiding Bluetooth altogether for watching TV, if there’s any way to cable it.

Eventually I got a desktop DAC/amp, plugged in beside the couch, and ran a long cable from the TV around the perimeter of the room (less tantalizing for my cat than the headphone cable clothes lined across the middle of the room). I say “cable” because optical didn’t work, my LG TV has a funky optical output, so I had to use an HDMI audio extractor and run RCA from that.

A simpler solution would have just been to run a really long headphone extension cable from the receiver around the perimeter of the room. It’s like $17, would have saved me a lot of money.

colev14 t1_ixhdenl wrote on November 23, 2022 at 1:36 PM

Can you connect 2 pairs of Bluetooth headphones with aptx LL with this?

Nr48 t1_ixheo3e wrote on November 23, 2022 at 1:47 PM

Never tried but I think so. 2 times aptx / aptx LL is okay. Think most transmitter fall back to aptx if you try to connect 2x aptx HD devices.

BigBrainAlphaMale OP t1_ixj7fmt wrote on November 23, 2022 at 9:03 PM

Thanks for sharing all of this. So it looks like the bottleneck ends up being the bluetooth headphones if you pair it with the 1mii B03 transmitter, since the bluetooth headphones would have to have the low latency spec baked into it?

What about buying two of the 1mii B03 devices and use one as a transmitter at the TV and the other as a receiver where the user sits and plug in a pair of wired headphones into the receiver. Would that work properly? I like a nice cheap solution. I'm starting to like the idea of being able to use wired headphones on the "receiver" end since I've heard issues with people's bluetooth headphones dying due to the battery and whatnot. The receiver end could theoretically use any wired headphones that can be driven by the 1mii B03. The 1mii B03 Pro has a dac on it. Maybe purchase that for the receiver and the 1mii B03 as the transmitter? What do you think? Any better ideas.

Nr48 t1_ixj9pin wrote on November 23, 2022 at 9:19 PM

Yes, if you want a Bluetooth headphone it should support aptx LL at best. Here is a list.

https://www.aptx.com/product-listing?product_category=7&aptx_type=3&created[min]=2019/09/31&created[max]=2022/12/31&sort_by=created&sort_order=DESC

Don't use a Bluetooth transceiver as a headphone amp. Less power and features, too big, volume control sucks.... . Better stick to your original idea and use the 1mii transmitter and a btr5 or qudelix 5k. (maybe btr3k if on a tight budget)

The EQ function to adjust the sound to your liking is also a big plus.

One thing, you have a 5.1 system connected to your TV? Then you would have to change the tv settings to PCM for headphones and back for 5.1 all the time.