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lexicalsatire t1_j1hn55m wrote

True! Surprisingly, the estat used prices look like a steal. Only downside for me is the need for energizers. Otherwise, would have given the Shangri la Jr and the Stax 007s and 009s a shot.

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tenderbeefonpho OP t1_j1i9rs6 wrote

I am driving these SR009 with Stax SRM-717. I have no personal experience with other Stax amps though I’ve heard the 353X is no slouch for these (and they are much easier to find used than 717). I heard these from a Chord Dave > BHSE when I auditioned them recently. Do my rig do them justice? I think so, as I don’t remember the sound being so vastly different with my audition. The SR007 I read is much harder to drive though. What I mean is if you know the sound is what you want, there are used Stax amps that won’t break the bank so don’t let that hold you back :)

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covertash t1_j1icgcf wrote

> Only downside for me is the need for energizers.

Yeah, this was initially some of my hesitation to try estats early on, as well. Technically speaking, if you did pick up an energizer, you could hook it up to your AHB2 and have an incredible setup - or separately pick up an amp that can be directly fed from one of your DAC's instead. There are older (but still quite capable) Stax SRM-1 amps that routinely show up on eBay, like this one:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144836240623

This can allow you to run modern estats using Pro bias, as well as older vintage Stax through the Normal bias.

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[deleted] t1_j1hsd6m wrote

A steal? Compared to what?

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lexicalsatire t1_j1ht1ur wrote

Utopia, LCD-5, Susvara, Abyss - anything in the top bracket. Shangri la Jr, 007, 009s within $900 - $2000. No experience with estats, so I'm assuming these estats are top bracket and exist mano a mano with the dynamics and planars.

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[deleted] t1_j1hup1z wrote

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lexicalsatire t1_j1hx2fd wrote

Not sure why you're being so aggressive. Never claimed anything about price and performance. Yes, top bracket in terms of price, because I wouldn't really be comparing something like a X2HR to a Stax X9000. Also, I have wouldn't have any interest in making that comparison either.

From what I've read, the Shang JR is the estat equivalent to the Susvara. Assuming it is, its used price is much lower, ~ $2000 vs $3000+ on Susvaras. Not here to discuss dealer markups, flagship MSRP bonkers. Just making a point about estat equivalents being cheaper.

Similarly, SR007s can be found from ~$900. That's the same price as your HD800(S). Now I have no idea how the Staxs sound, but based on one of Resolve's comments, they were held in high regard, in the same company as Utopia and Susvara (prior to LCD5 release). Now, from a price perspective, ~$900 vs $2800 vs $3000+, that's an interesting value proposition, at least for me.

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[deleted] t1_j1hywwi wrote

Why not compare cheap to expensive headphones? I'd much rather have the HD600 than any STAX. They just sound more correct to me.

Depending on what YouTubers you watch silver cables change the sound of headphones. So, not really a good source of information.

Equivalent in what? Place in the company product stack?

And cheaper how? You still need at least a 500 bucks (srm 252S) amp for them, whilst 99% of conventional design work with any 100€ or cheaper amp.

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covertash t1_j1iaso5 wrote

> And this top bracket is based on what exactly? Ah, I know: PRICE.

Why so obtuse? The context is obviously about prices in the used market. The OP clearly stated as such, and the math is clear and simple.

Someone shit in your cereal this morning?

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The_D0lph1n t1_j1ioxt0 wrote

That particular user always seems to stir up shit in every thread that has a higher-end headphone. The same breed of Reddit-informed "hardcore objectivist tough guy" persona that appears on here every few months.

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