tachyon8 t1_j56562n wrote on January 20, 2023 at 5:47 PM

Reply to comment by Rogue-Architect in New Abyss Diana Bass Ported Pads by bbuky01

Ugh, you're just repeating tired old things that have all been settled over there. Like the sustained 94db vs peak and on the mounting... You just don't like him or the people on the site and you're missing the point of that site in general as its not headfi. Its about the objective performance of the hardware. You just don't like him or his listening conclusions even though it seems that you accepted the hardware results. I don't read audiophile review articles about impression as they are worthless to me. The data says far more if you have reference points to compare it to. Again the site is about hardware not his listening conclusions.

I had the diana v2 as well and I thought it was "meh" too. Probably a reason you like the LCD-5 despite it having a similar FR, ear pads and closeness to the ear is the incredibly low amounts of distortion. Even though you EQ'd a bass shelf on the Diana the distortion from bass is far less audible than in other frequencies. The fact that the distortion is so bad in the places that matter if you wanted to EQ on top of it being so bad stock, is an objective failure for an audio company selling high "fidelity" audio, as its not.

Rogue-Architect t1_j56w166 wrote on January 20, 2023 at 8:36 PM

I think maybe you should listen to the “tired old things” because they are true. They are only settled for Amir’s sheep. Amir is the worst and most dangerous influencer in this hobby because he is a fraud. Zeos, Josh, etc may not be trustworthy but they never claimed to be objectivists. Amir claims objectivity and science and then runs bull shit tests with his own intuition and then castigates anyone that disagrees with him along with his minions (you) because, ya know, science or something. So Zeos and Josh get a pass because they are not claiming to be anything so no harm no foul, but Amir does not get a pass and why I refer to him as a fraud. You bring up not liking him and you are correct, but that has nothing to do with him personally but instead his laziness and unscientific process that he then tries to make people feel bad about by using big words that he then comes to also be found incorrect on.

You are also incorrect that I trust his hardware measurements. I do trust the measurements resolve did, because he follows industry standard practices, and am not trying to claim the Diana does not have high distortion numbers. I also have no ties with HeadFi other than I use their classifieds.

I do find it sad that you think a graph can tell you all you need to know about headphones when our current measurement/interpretation ability is not able to tell use a fair bit about a headphone I.e. slam, detail, soundstage, etc. just use your own ears and you will see how wrong Amir is.

Your last point is just flat out wrong. I EQd more than just bass and never had a single issue with distortion. I’m inclined to believe you have never heard a Diana because you just keep taking about distortion. Again, it wasn’t the headphone for my taste, but if you are bringing up distortion as if it is audible in anyway you are a liar or probably bought shitty source equipment based on Amir’s recommendation.

Happy Listening! (Does not include sine sweeps)

tachyon8 t1_j57opcu wrote on January 20, 2023 at 11:47 PM

Your points are mostly about your self admitted animosity towards Amir and constructing false framing, false dichotomies and straw men. I have no interest in debating that. Also, you can't tell me what I hear or don't hear or what headphones I have owned or how data is useful for me and in what way.

I keep talking about distortion because that is what these "TOTL" high "fidelity" headphones produce and it can be audible and these headphones obviously have variations in how they preform. Abyss is selling people a "feeling", not fidelity. Pretty obvious why you like your LCD-5 more, IMO.

I'll continue to listen to 1khz sine sweeps, its all I listen to, and I sometimes sit in silence with my headphones on listening to graphs..../s