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thefrostmakesaflower t1_jdv8saj wrote

Reply to comment by Blabulus in Oldest tartan found to date back to 16th Century - A scrap of fabric found in a Highland peat bog 40 years ago is likely to be the oldest tartan ever discovered in Scotland, new tests have established. by ArtOak

I will just be happy when Americans and Canadians realise kilts are Scottish and not Irish.

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trundlinggrundle t1_jdvgj3w wrote

No, we definitely know they're a Scottish thing. Most of us picture the Irish with suspenders and little bowler hats.

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BG6769 t1_jdwra3u wrote

I see a lot of servers wearing kilts in "Irish" pubs here. It's weird.

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demostravius2 t1_jdzxzmh wrote

Kilts historically have been worn in Ireland as well...

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thefrostmakesaflower t1_je00619 wrote

I already know the answer to this question…are you Irish? Ask any Irish person and they will tell you kilts are scotttish. Yes there’s times people wore it, hell even the new English king wears kilts. They are an important clothing for the Scottish people and we do not have any traditional or cultural ties with them.

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demostravius2 t1_je020hz wrote

I'm not pretending they are as integral as to Scotland, but why also pretend they don't play any role? The Saffron Kilt is still part of some dress uniforms, and there was a period in Ireland where they gained popularity as pro-Gaelic symbolism.

Sure, Americans like to blow things wildy out of proportion, but don't let plastic paddies dull your own history.

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thefrostmakesaflower t1_je04exd wrote

I’m not denying it, we Irish people do not consider it part of our traditional dress. Why are people trying to tell us about our own culture? The English have worn kilts but you wouldn’t tell them it’s part of their culture. Military uniforms which the saffron kilt is, is not part of our culture as it was introduced by the English and invented by the Scottish. Plus if you have to consider that many Scottish people settled in ulster (ulster plantation) so yes those in ultster of Scottish descent will also sometimes wear it but again linked back to Scotland

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demostravius2 t1_je04xv3 wrote

Culture can come from external sources. English the language is part of Irish culture, for example. Most cultures are heavily influenced by external sources.

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thefrostmakesaflower t1_je068g2 wrote

Yes the language that was forced on us. Can you not step back and see what you are doing right now? You’re not Irish, you’re English correct? So please, respect what we consider our culture. Fly over to Ireland and ask us, go to our museums and learn. We have lost so much of our culture so it’s insulting to try tell us about it. Have a great life, im too busy to debate if im honest. My fault from a joke I made that people read the tone of wrong, was not my intention so apologies, I was just trying to have a laugh.

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demostravius2 t1_je084w3 wrote

Well, I don't want to push an argument, so enjoy the rest of your day!

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