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potato_gem t1_is9wlpr wrote

That's incredible, so many of us today due to people who trekked in that land. Would love to know more about 900000yr old human prints!

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justforthearticles20 t1_isaafz4 wrote

Hominids. Humans had not come off the assembly line yet.

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Naprisun t1_isbq9xk wrote

So Harfoots then?

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MoonDaddy t1_iscnn2m wrote

It is said the Harfoots crossed the Baranduin some time in the middle of the Third Age, some 5,000 years ago.

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Ok-Rice-5377 t1_isb035h wrote

Hmm, I'm pretty sure humans were around 8,500 years ago. I'm a bit rusty with my anthropology, but I think humans have been around < 1,000,000 but more realistic estimates are around 200,000 years.

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get_schwifty t1_isb3ztv wrote

> Using pollen in sediment layers, the scientists dated the footprints to between 850,000 and 950,000 years ago. This age means the footprints may have been left by Homo antecessor, an early human species known to be present in Europe at that time.

Definitions for this are a moving target. They’re sometimes called “archaic humans”, and some include them as part of Homo sapiens. They use trinomials to make a distinction between subspecies like antecessor and neanderthalensis, making us Homo sapiens sapiens.

Another common way to classify them would be Hominin, which includes all of those archaic species, our immediate ancestors, and us. It used to be Hominid, which now is more broad and includes chimps, gorillas, orangutans, etc.

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justforthearticles20 t1_isb08t6 wrote

The linked article incorrectly says 900,000 year old human tracks were found "Nearby".

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Ok-Rice-5377 t1_isb1icy wrote

You are correct, sorry about that! The 900,000 year old track's article uses the word Human also a few times, but then clarifies and says Homo Antecessor; which is in fact an ancestor to Humans, but are not Homo Sapiens themselves.

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Sketchy-Fish t1_isdqrl3 wrote

Yer of course they were..the time frame for humans has been pushed back a few times..

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TheMadManFiles t1_isbjng4 wrote

Check out North02 on YouTube of you are interested in ancient homo beings and others that were similar like the Denisovan or Neanderthal

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Ok-Rice-5377 t1_isazxjp wrote

I think the article said this is from about 8,500 years ago.

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CykaRuskiez t1_isayuf9 wrote

Humans have only been around for roughly a third of that time

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Cyanopicacooki t1_isa9j2k wrote

Shows the difference in scale between the US and the UK:-

>One nearby archaeological site ... in Norfolk, located about 250 miles (400 km) to the southeast of Formby

They're both coastal features, on the opposite sides of the country... In the UK, it would never be called nearby 😁

Still though, it is amazing that we can see interactions between humans and animals from thousands of years ago, we can see their toeprints.

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PM_ME_YOUR_LUKEWARM t1_isealek wrote

> located about 250 miles (400 km) to the southeast of Formby

That's almost like Boston to NYC.

And yeah I guess some folks would describe that as nearby in the US.

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DwarfTheMike t1_isej70y wrote

The northeast is pretty small. That’s like a 4-5hr drive.

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TheGlassCat t1_isal0hg wrote

What's the difference between a highway and a super highway?

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Han_Ominous t1_isaopaq wrote

Super highways have on ramps? Gotta get your walking speed up to that of the herd before you merge.

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Hoffmiester1295 t1_iseizob wrote

This definitely sounds like it came from the new Ice Age movie script.

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hvanderw t1_isbz3p2 wrote

Or information superhighway!

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canehdian78 t1_isc0crn wrote

This is what I was thinking. (Witten in 1994)

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Orngog t1_isc6lhi wrote

Is it a series of tubes?

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canehdian78 t1_iscrass wrote

Big ol' dish.

And a heads-up on the possibilities of the information super highway

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Orngog t1_ise6zla wrote

Yeah I did look. Pleasantly surprised!

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ian2121 t1_isbdm02 wrote

Too bad we can’t find any mega highways

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Rexel-Dervent t1_ise0e78 wrote

Anthropologists might be able to help with that. I hear good thing about the the ones from Collegeville, Indiana.

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albatross_the t1_isajmga wrote

Thinking about their ways of life is so fascinating. These types of discoveries can really make your imagination run wild. What I wouldn't give for an in-person glimpse of humans at this time. I feel we could find common ground to relate to each other, like the relief of a good pee in the bush or something like that

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Ferengi_Earwax t1_isb235g wrote

They had seasonal hunting and gathering lands. They'd move to where they could find the most abundant resources at the time. Most of the time it seems to be adjacent to wetlands. Wetland always have an abundance of animals, even in winter. Archeologists have found dwellings that were semi permanent. Meaning, they weren't inhabitanted year around but were built to be used as camps when they were in the area. The mesolithic is a fascinating Era. Especially when we get a glimpse into their believes like all the red deer skulls at Starr carr

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albatross_the t1_isb9qit wrote

Oh that's interesting about the red deer skulls, I will look into that with great enthusiasm. I read the book Sapiens which was really thought provoking. Would love to read more about this kind of stuff if you or any others have reccs

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worotan t1_isbe0q5 wrote

After the Ice by Steven Mithin is a great book for exactly this kind of information.

He tells you about archeological research around the world for the period 20,000 to 5,000 bce, but he also then tells you a story about a time traveller watching the people in the settlements or areas live their lives, as revealed by the archeological evidence.

It’s a really great way to think your way into the landscape they lived in and exploited. And it spans the globe.

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Ferengi_Earwax t1_isbajyq wrote

I tend to stick to the papers and journals, but there are plenty of popular history books that cover this period. Just never in the detail some of us would like. There's simply not enough information to really write a large book specifically on the mesolithic In Britain. There most certainly is alot of research on it, but not the type that lends itself to the usual popular history books which tend to be narrative driven.

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albatross_the t1_isbb0f4 wrote

Thank you. We will have to wait for contact with the aliens so we can watch their documentaries about them. I am looking forward to the day

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Ferengi_Earwax t1_isc1b4m wrote

Haha, I just saw the other day ancient aliens is on its 18th freaking season or so. Incredible. I do enjoy the shows cinematography though. They do an excellent job at filming historical sites. I just wish they wouldn't purposefully film blurry shots of hieroglyphics to mislead people into believing it's a helicopter or whatever they choose to imagine. They also tend to crop out all the context to fit their narrative. Def A show that's always best watched on mute.

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Etzello t1_isaw8nr wrote

This is why I scroll through comments on reddit

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Hakuchansankun t1_isdrf2v wrote

This made me happy…your words. The whole article did as well. We are an amazing, varied, versatile and prolific bunch. It’s very often difficult to see any beauty in our species or existence. I cherish when I actually can.

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cory-balory t1_isbvfe8 wrote

I'm very confused, the article indicates that 50BC is considered part of a stone age?

"...from the Mesolithic period, or Middle Stone Age (15,000 B.C. to 50 B.C.) to medieval times (from A.D. 476 to A.D. 1450)."

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Shelala85 t1_isdkh7u wrote

Probably missing two zeros for 5000BC which is around the time of the copper age.

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ArtIsDumb t1_isbyuhx wrote

The Stone Age is generally considered to have ended around 3,000 B.C.

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cheddarcheeseballs t1_isb49b8 wrote

These MCU spin-offs are getting ridiculous. Let me guess the story - a regular highway gets stepped on his whole life until one day someone shows it a new path and it gains these newfound powers for extra speed and strength?? I’ve seen this a million times Disney. shakes fist

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ArtIsDumb t1_isbyjqt wrote

No, this was a regular highway on Krypton, but a scientist launched it to Earth before the planet exploded, & under Earth's yellow sun the regular highway became a super highway...

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Palatyibeast t1_isc4y8m wrote

Oh. My favourite is the one about the ignored little pathway that gets paved over by radioactive asphalt!

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B_Burns t1_isd6v2e wrote

Tides of History is a wonderful podcast that has many episodes dedicated to pre-history. It's worth checking out if you have a passing interest in the topic. Patrick does a great job of reaching listeners with no background in the topic, so no fear if you aren't a history scholar.

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izthistaken t1_isb8a11 wrote

Pretty amazing time to be alive. We're going to learn so much in the next couple of years about the past. Because the world is dying, we will all see the past before the end.

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Some_Tie2395 t1_ise1avf wrote

Thanks for sharing. I think it would be cool if we took the new tech and traced what is under our feet for every bit of land we can. So many secrets are buried.

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chillig8 t1_isdsyd2 wrote

8500 years isn’t long enough for fossils to form is it? Are these tracks in danger of being exposed too elements and erosion?

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McWeaksauce91 t1_isdejql wrote

Well what if aliens do exist and they’ve been recording us like National Geographic. Imagine having a real picture or video clips of Ancient Rome. Or watch our first ancestors come out of the trees

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Nulovka t1_isb34cg wrote

I suspect it's just pareidolia. Notice the same "human and animal footprints" are seen in the clouds above the mud.

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