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NorthOfTheBigRivers t1_j6dnlvr wrote

1672 is still taught in schools as to be the rampjaar (disaster year). The Netherlands were attacked by the English, The French and by the bishop of Munster (Nowadays Germany). The Dutch were very rich and the countries defense was more or less asleep: Money needed to go to trading and the traders and not to the defense of the country. That was not a great idea, so the rampjaar happend. We managed to survive and are still a proud nation.

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ignoroids_triumph t1_j6dqj6l wrote

How did the Netherlands know it was the English and not the French that sank this ship?

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NorthOfTheBigRivers t1_j6drqjn wrote

I don't know who sank this ship, but the war with France was fought on land, while the war with England was fought at sea. So the ship was most likely sank by the English.

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ignoroids_triumph t1_j6dsx3d wrote

I just don't know how they can contribute this to the start of the 3rd war, the English must of bragged about it.

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DeRuyter67 t1_j6fq00g wrote

The war would have happened anyway. This was just the first action and before the official Declaration of war. The English hoped to capture a very valuable merchant convoy while the Dutch were unprepared but it was still unsuccessful

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DeRuyter67 t1_j6fpb6c wrote

The French also contributed a fleet to the war at sea. The Ruyter defeated both fleets at the same time. In the action in which it was taken, the French however didn't participate

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amsterdam_BTS t1_j6dxzzc wrote

Was it during the Rampjaar that a French cavalry force captured a Dutch ship that was frozen in the ice in I think the Zuider Zee? (Of was het in de Ijselmier?)

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DeRuyter67 t1_j6fpgsz wrote

That was during the War of the first coalition, more than a century later

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flanders_campaign?wprov=sfla1

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amsterdam_BTS t1_j6fubb7 wrote

Ah. I grew up in the USA, so Dutch history is not my forte despite it being my first language.

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DeRuyter67 t1_j6fuxzb wrote

Np haha. You can follow my account if you want to learn a bit more about it

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amsterdam_BTS t1_j6fxxzl wrote

Done. Thanks.

It's very odd. I grew up speaking Dutch at home, and both my parents speak not just fluent but eloquent Dutch (university professor and literary translator) so my Dutch is very, very good, but has a weird accent and I know next to nothing about the history and political system. Gets me free beers and strange conversations whenever I'm in NL.

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