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clade_nade OP t1_jbxvbkc wrote

Besides being politically counterproductive -- who exactly does he think is voting for progressive candidates in cities? -- this take is like forty years out of date. Young white people in urban centers, known for their... dislike of seasoned food?

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whybother5000 t1_jby5o3k wrote

It’s like he used chatGPT progressive Twitter mode to construct his by the numbers non-comment.

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_jc0em6d wrote

He's also a fake progressive like Brian Stack (who is currently using gobs of taxpayer money to fight Hoboken on their plan to build housing that might slightly block some Union City millionaires NYC views). The machine likes him. He voted to ban all marijuana stores from opening in Union City and I have no doubt he'd extend that to all of Hudson County if allowed.

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Zulumus t1_jc0siot wrote

As one of those blue collar Union City residents about to have his view blocked, I can guarantee you there aren’t many of these “millionaires” you’re dreaming up. Pretty normal people who just like to keep the little they have.

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_jc24jbp wrote

How much is your residence worth?

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Zulumus t1_jc256qf wrote

400k

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_jc2ojo3 wrote

The only places I see at that valuation have tremendous HOA fees pricing out the working class

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Zulumus t1_jc2pz9o wrote

You almost make it sound like the rental market is any more generous. In any event, I’m still a union worker and not a millionaire.

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oseguera2020 t1_jc0fcd1 wrote

The machine likes me???

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_jc0hl30 wrote

You're the one who bragged about your Stack endorsement. While you're here, care to tell us why you believe marijuana doesn't belong in Union City? You made public comments claiming to be in support of marijuana sales in Union City and then went ahead and voted to ban it anyways, just like Stack. The literal textbook machine politician play.

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oseguera2020 t1_jc0izxp wrote

I was never endorsed by Brian Stack. He endorsed my opponent in 2020.

I also never voted against dispensaries in UC because I’m not on City Council. The UC Council voted on the ordinance to ban cannabis dispensaries.

As a member of the Planning Board my vote was that the ordinance was consistent with the City’s Master Plan, because it is consistent with the Master Plan, despite my personal feelings about the substance of the ordinance.

If you check the Board minutes I spoke at length about my opposition to banning dispensaries & gave an interview to the Hudson County View reiterating my views. I have always been pro cannabis legalization.

Article linked below:

https://hudsoncountyview.com/union-city-planning-board-approves-measure-prohibiting-marijuana-establishments/

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JeromePowellAdmirer t1_jc0mg0j wrote

On 3/19/21, since deleted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1sK1zzWUAAXJ-x?format=png&name=small

Why was it necessary to say all the stuff about "this is a very densely populated community" if you didn't want it to pass? I also don't agree that the majority of Union City residents (an extremely Democratic city) oppose marijuana legalization. The true majority would have supported (had it not been for suppression through machine power) and a no vote on that would have given them a voice.

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oseguera2020 t1_jc0oe4u wrote

You said earlier that I bragged about getting Stack’s endorsement, but you’re showing me a tweet where I said that he does retail politics better than other elected officials in Hudson County, which is just a statement of objective fact.

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sutisuc t1_jc0og2r wrote

What’s the point of indicating that it’s a densely populated community as part of banning dispensaries?

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justanothersynthdork t1_jc78nuv wrote

Hey Hector. I proudly voted for you in the last election but this really isn't a good look. I agree with your policies but on-line trolling and taunting feels an awful lot like an ex-president of ours. Might I kindly recommend logging off for a bit. It's the internet. Every tweet isn't a battle cry and there are much better ways to use your time. Good luck.

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Rube777 t1_jbynalu wrote

Wonder how he feels about votes from melanin deprived people? What an utterly ridiculous phrase from someone with an axe to grind

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zjuka t1_jbzd2jc wrote

https://preview.redd.it/1ya2xudoafna1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=2d4c7bf54f52c5f00279146e34f2fbcd92ee3f98

Ooooh, someone’s butthurt…

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objectimpermanence t1_jc0e7iy wrote

It’s interesting to see certain “progressives” employing the same immature tactics that Trump & Co. use when they have nothing substantive or useful to add to a conversation. He’s trying to be edgy like AOC, but he has zero substance.

It’s juvenile behavior and people who act like this should not be in positions of power.

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HoneyWest007 t1_jc06gfu wrote

Did you notice who else liked it on Twitter. Kristen Zadroga Hart. Another former candidate and teacher.

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oseguera2020 t1_jbz50jt wrote

Happy to chat about this in person if you’re down.

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clade_nade OP t1_jbzyqb8 wrote

I think we might have run into each other in person when canvassing for Joel Brooks. Or I might be misremembering. Anyway, Joel never talked like this (at least in public), and no serious candidate or organizer should, either.

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idontbs t1_jc00x1a wrote

Or, you know, you could just say it here

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oseguera2020 t1_jc01v1i wrote

I cherish & enjoy nuanced debates on policy, especially housing policy. But a forum where anything I write will be downvoted en mass doesn’t seem to be a good place for that sort of discussion.

I sincerely doubt this one Retweet changed anyone’s opinion of me, rather it provided those who already hated me a reason to justify their disdain.

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idontbs t1_jc02q5d wrote

I mean, it changed mine.

I genuinely didn’t know who you were, and if it stayed that way probably would’ve voted for anyone running as a progressive democrat if I saw them on the ticket.

I really hope I’m wrong about you, but nothing you’re responding in this thread is giving me any sign that i am.

Then again, I’m just one person in JC, which might not matter to you.

Edit: formatting

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oseguera2020 t1_jc045cp wrote

If you are open to finding out whether or not you were wrong about me, the offer to connect is always open. But I don’t think it’s fair or accurate to boil me & my advocacy down to one Retweet.

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idontbs t1_jc0ej4w wrote

That’s fair, so I was looking you up.

I looked your Twitter up, found you bragging about making people on Reddit cry, which I guess would include me?

Your offer doesn’t seem genuine. If I meet with you, will you brag about shitting on me on Twitter like you just did? Why would I ever meet with you then.

https://twitter.com/Oseguera2020/status/1635028052572004352?s=20

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Supernatural_Canary t1_jc2f0iq wrote

Despite the fact that I’m a hardcore progressive—and like many others here, would be your natural ally—this retweet makes me not like you. I’m not saying this is fair, since I don’t know you, but first impressions matter.

Whether you like it or not, now you’re in a position of having to change my mind about you based on further actions and words. And it’s clear this is a widely shared sentiment. However, given your defensive (and at times reactionary) responses in this thread, my first impression of you stands.

If you can’t recognize the difficult position you’ve put yourself in with many Jersey City progressives because of your unnecessarily charged rhetoric and the seeming inability to recognize legitimate reasons that your potential allies may not like what you say and how you say it, then you’re not as skilled of a politician as you think you are.

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