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A_Downboat_Is_A_Sub t1_itqxau0 wrote

Reply to comment by VanWorst in Erie Railroad 4-6-2 steam locomotive no. 2736 leading a westbound passenger train out of Jersey City, New Jersey, circa 1950. The Manhattan skyline is visible in the background at right. by Tayo826

Yes, just a bit northeast of Dickinson HS, probably taken from the edge of the hill.

And before someone asks, that other train in the background is not PATH. PATH goes into it's tunnel several blocks south of here at the end of 1st St.

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Beautiful-Living-671 t1_itrbo4k wrote

The train in the background is coming off a wye from the north-south connecting track that led from the Erie yard to the West Shore line that began at Weehawken.

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TrafficSNAFU t1_itrxz93 wrote

I checked with a person who use to work on the Erie Lackawanna Railroad, he mentioned that the Erie had a coach shop on Monmouth Street.

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objectimpermanence t1_itsiglg wrote

Curious to know if your friend (or anyone else for that matter) has photos of Pavonia Terminal.

There are hardly any photos of that place online, especially of the interiors, which is super weird for what was such a major terminal.

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TrafficSNAFU t1_itskrjz wrote

I think part of that comes down to two reasons. Railfan photographers focused on the trains arriving and departing the old terminal and the fact that it was demolished so early as the Erie moved their passenger operations to Hoboken just before they merged with the Lackawanna Railroad. Finding photos of the interiors of both Exchange Place Terminal (Pennsylvania Railroad) and Weehawken Terminal (New York Central Railroad) is also tricky, as they both were torn down around the same time as Pavonia.

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Beautiful-Living-671 t1_itujbwn wrote

The Wikipedia page has the only front-facing photo I know of. Here are two of the rear from Kenneth French's "Railroads of Hoboken and Jersey City":

https://imgur.com/a/JwAhfOF

You have to remember this was built just before the Columbian Exposition. That fair was revolutionary in popularizing neoclassical architecture, and nearly every train station after followed that model. Pavonia terminal was just a wooden Victorian shack by comparison and not of much visual interest.

It was also quickly swallowed up by the ferry house in front of it, making photos even more difficult. But it is strange that there is nothing of the interior available.

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TrafficSNAFU t1_itr4w5m wrote

Originally thought it was a NYS&W train, as they utilized the Erie's Pavonia Terminal at the time. I'm thinking now that there may have been a coach yard for storing and servicing passenger trains down there.

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