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gamerdudeNYC OP t1_iurgtv4 wrote

Reply to comment by HappyArtichoke7729 in PSA: Employee at The Ashford stealing credit cards by gamerdudeNYC

I can’t really prove it, but that’s the only thing that makes sense to me

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haiduz t1_iuri2lf wrote

I mean you can’t really prove it was an ashford employee. Your card number might have been collected as a card skimmer like a month prior, sold on the dark web, and it’s just a coincidence it was used the same night as you went to the ashford.

Doesn’t stop you from accusing them tho cuz an ashford hate post gets even more of the /r/jerseycity circlejerk local updoots than an Amy DeGise hate post.

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[deleted] t1_iurj2sr wrote

There are as many unpleasant reasons to hate the Ashford as there are to hate Degise.

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gamerdudeNYC OP t1_iurj1pi wrote

Right, like I said I can’t prove it so I feel that the least I can do is let management know and they can do what the wish, they can ignore me completely or if they’re getting multiple complaints then maybe they’ll be more vigilant about it

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haiduz t1_iurjkmq wrote

Be sure to mention that you made a Reddit thread publicly accusing their employees of theft before they had a chance to review or respond. They’ll love you for that!

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nerdiestnerdballer t1_iurotcb wrote

I found the Ashford employee!

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haiduz t1_iurpqbi wrote

Just a happy patron. If you dont spend all your time on /r/jerseycity where internet dorks like to hate on people having fun offline and actually hang out on Newark Ave you’ll find that’s it’s a decent mega bar, with good food, that caters to a much more diverse clientele than the other Reddit faves, is LBGT inclusive, and a nice rooftop on the summer. Is it the best bar in NJ/NYC area? Far from it. No, but it’s certainly not worth the hate that it gets here. Especially this post which is blind accusation of theft with little to no proof.

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gamerdudeNYC OP t1_iurt1if wrote

This is obviously a very sensitive subject for you, send me a DM next time you’re going and I’ll buy you a drink, using cash of course

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fuhgettaboutitt t1_iurtrla wrote

This reads like ad copy - there’s no way you’re not an owner or management

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pixel_of_moral_decay t1_iurln9h wrote

Yup.

Way easier to purchase credit cards on the “dark web” than steal them in person.

No chance of getting caught online (there’s not enough resources to investigate, it’s just an insurance thing built into credit card fees).

Just buy numbers online and keep your day job.

There’s really no reason to lift a credit card to use yourself.

If you do lift cards, put a skimmer on a gas pump, collect a bunch and sell them. That can make financial sense.

But just stealing a couple is too stupid to be likely. The economics don’t make sense.

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gamerdudeNYC OP t1_iurtm3d wrote

But I used it at the Ashford on Sunday and then last night it was also used by someone again at the Ashford and later to try and buy casino credits

So unless the person bought it off the dark web and went to the same bar I went to on Sunday, I’m thinking it was an employee that took a picture of the front and back while I was there

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haiduz t1_iurnpcu wrote

The fact that the person bought online casino credits (online digital goods that can be converted to cash) makes me thing that it was probably someone that bought it online out of state rather than some local bartender with a crippling gambling addiction that he is willing to risk his job for.

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gamerdudeNYC OP t1_iurt940 wrote

It was used at the Ashford but whoever stole it and then a few hour later used to buy online casino credits, so I’m guessing it was the same person

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pixel_of_moral_decay t1_ius8o6u wrote

Yup.

It’s not worth losing a job over something so trivial to get other ways.

And someone that stupid to risk a job would likely take it to a liquor store, or Walmart for impulse purchases. Order online with the number and pickup. Not something more sophisticated as you suggested.

Years ago I had a card that was likely cloned to be used at a liquor store, which was apparently down the street from where I legitimately used the card.

But back then magnetic strips were widely used, and cloning is trivial. With emv cards, it’s the default and beyond gas stations few places are even possible to use magnetic strips now.

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HappyArtichoke7729 t1_ius7zfg wrote

You should report it to the police. It's literally their job to investigate the crimes and if they can prove it, send the evidence for prosecution. Why do you feel it's your job?

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