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MOGicantbewitty t1_j9p3zri wrote

Reply to comment by BovaDesnuts in People are leaving Mass. Thoughts? by Original_Musician103

The region does NOT mean the soil. And it’s offensive that you think my sourced comments about economic benefits for the people in the region means I think I’m special. No. It means I do this work for a living and I understand how the rail will benefit the people in the region by creating economic development, local wealth, and jobs. Without sources showing backing up your analysis, your comments don’t mean anything. And your inflammatory response with complete inaccuracies do not help you.

Plus, it seems like the only thing you care about is Springfield. More people live in the valley than they do Springfield. And a trolley system in Springfield? Seriously, show me one needs assessment that suggests that Springfield would benefit from that. Show me one place that says that would be better than what PVTA already has.

The region is the soil… god, I can’t. The amount of bullshit in this one comment would take me pages to deconstruct and I have to get back to actually improving the environment and economy in the Pioneer Valley in my professional state level position. So again, until you have sources that mean something instead of ranting about things you don’t understand, bye!

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BovaDesnuts t1_j9p5bdx wrote

>The region does NOT mean the soil. And it’s offensive that you think my sourced comments about economic benefits for the people in the region means I think I’m special.

Gentrification is well-studied. It has been creeping West across Metro West. Rent goes up, people head West where they can afford homes without changing jobs, or leave all-together. In case you're unfamiliar, it's a process whereby something brings wealthy individuals into the area, driving up costs and displacing local residents.

My question is how the rail, as proposed, will improve the lives of the people already in the Pioneer Valley instead of displace them as has happened from New Hampshire to Braintree to Worcester. Your link shows it'll improve the economy, sure. But who will benefit is more important to me than how large the benefits are.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j9p731x wrote

How does improving the economy is a specific area NOT benefit the people living in it? Jobs? Food? Accessibility to services, medical care, businesses… if your concern is keeping people for other areas out, that’s just ridiculous. And I see nothing from you backing up the negative impacts to Worcester and NH from adding public transport like railways. You need to back that shit up with evidence and studies.

You do know the gentrification is not the result solely of expanding public transport right? Have you seen the housing prices in the last three years WITHOUT the railway? Please, use sources or stop talking to me. I have real work to do.

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BovaDesnuts t1_j9p7xz5 wrote

>How does improving the economy is a specific area NOT benefit the people living in it? Jobs? Food? Accessibility to services, medical care, businesses…

Oh, easy. When it doesn't come with improved conditions, it tends to lead to social cohesion and social capital loss while simultaneously displacing poor people and damaging their health.

The mistake you're making, and the one that the state documents refuse to address, is what happens to the people who are already there.

>You do know the gentrification is not the result solely of expanding public transport right? Have you seen the housing prices in the last three years WITHOUT the railway?

CDC indicates it's mostly driven by push factors, such as a lack of housing and massive job growth in nearby cities. Maybe we can think of a city with these issues nearby?

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j9p8bxp wrote

That’s has nothing to do with Springfield and a railway. That’s the CDCs page on gentrification and there is NO tie in to the topic at hand.

Bye troll

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BovaDesnuts t1_j9p8gf7 wrote

I only hope that in 20 years when you see what you've done to the poor people of WMA, you'll have the strength do the right thing.

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