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stuartroelke OP t1_irxptx8 wrote

Reply to comment by XtremeWRATH360 in Getting Paid Lunches in MA by stuartroelke

It’s not an hour. Most people only get thirty minutes of unpaid lunch. And, it’s not the same as free time. You can leave and go get food, but you can’t do everything you could if that time was provided to you at the beginning or end of your shift. You are eating so that you can continue working effectively. If you don’t feel like that time aught to be compensated, then that’s fine. But I do. If don’t have suggestions as to how someone could fight for this change, then you’re not really reading my post.

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modernhomeowner t1_irxqfkx wrote

If you want to be paid, and feel you are entitled to it, negotiate with your employer and show them how your getting paid for lunch will earn them more money, get a salaried job, or open your own business.

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stuartroelke OP t1_irxxmar wrote

That’s an effective strategy for one person. That doesn’t help those that can’t do the same. If you don’t share the same opinion, then you don’t have anything to offer to this conversation unfortunately.

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RevengencerAlf t1_irxztzs wrote

There is actually an extremely popular mechanism that a large portion of the labor sector in both the US and the rest of the free world tend to use to collectively bargain for terms with employers based exactly on the kind of value propositions we're talking about here.

Now you're just being petulant and dismissing people for "having nothing to offer" because they don't just bend over backwards and agree with you. Continue behaving like this and you'll never get anyone to come around to support you even if they nominally agree with your positions.

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stuartroelke OP t1_iry2sz1 wrote

I’m not being “petulant,” I’m asking for advice and receiving surprisingly opinionated responses that aren’t actually helpful or related to the original question. And, I’m not interested in working with anyone that isn’t helpful in this context. That’s a choice I’m making. Feel free to disagree with it.

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RevengencerAlf t1_iry399w wrote

My dude you advocated for a political change on the internet. People are gonna tell you that they think it's a bad idea. Grow the fuck up and get over it, because you're sure as hell going to have to deal with it if you want to actually push for such a change.

Pissing at people and telling them they "don't have anything to add" because they didn't give you the answer you wanted to hear is fairly charitably described as being petulant.

But... since I'm feeling nice and you seem like you need all the help you can get to get your shit together here, of the 3 politicians you mentioned, 2 of them are federal offices and one of them is a mayor. None of them are going to do dick about MA labor laws. Focus on state and even local level officials. If you have trouble figuring out who to go to there start with your representative, not the senators. They'll more likely know your local contacts in your specific part of the state and those people and their staff are more likely to help you network and find like minded people in other election districts who feel the same. They'll have a better idea of what districts will be receptive to making it a campaign issue and who will listen.

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stuartroelke OP t1_iry4rez wrote

Thanks? I don’t even know what to say because that last part was all you had to say.

Thanks for all the laughs and hypocrisy along the way.

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RevengencerAlf t1_iry4z1j wrote

I'd say you're welcome but I doubt you have the personal restraint, self control, rhetorical filter, or contextual literacy skills to actually use that information effectively after being such a dismissive baby about people not telling you what you want to hear, but what can I say I'm a sucker for fools I guess.

At this point you clearly just keep using words you don't even know the meaning of and it's sad as hell.

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stuartroelke OP t1_iryt091 wrote

Yes, I wanted to hear advice about how to advocate for something I feel strongly about. You continue insult my intelligence, but I’ve made my intention and my stance well known at this point. You wouldn’t insult me if you didn’t want to elicit some kind of response, but I do not know what you were hoping to gain from spamming me with contrary opinions, giving me actual advice, and then senselessly bashing me with childish criticism. I’m left partially baffled by all this confusion and negativity, but with the same opinion I’ve had since the beginning.

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XtremeWRATH360 t1_irxqcfd wrote

I don’t know what line of work you’re in but I get hour lunches and have at other jobs. When I get my lunch I get plenty of time to do stuff and I don’t know exactly what you’re looking to do on your lunch break but now it seems you want time to eat lunch and do other stuff on top of that all while getting paid. That’s quite the fantasy. You want to go fight for that right all the power to you. There are probably bigger labor issues that you could spend your energy focusing on however.

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stuartroelke OP t1_irxreo2 wrote

Other labor issues don’t necessarily reflect my experience, and someone else can work on those if they choose. Your privileges while on break also don’t reflect my working conditions since moving to MA, so you might not feel as strongly about this as I do.

I’m looking for some insight into changing what I believe is an injustice. It doesn’t have to be a fantasy to fight for workers rights, but it seems that the general opinion lately is “why bother?” That’s pretty unsettling, and ultimately not helpful.

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