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Shnikes t1_j1qn3rb wrote

Reply to comment by funsk8mom in Anyone else has the flu? by Emergency-Candy1677

Many people can’t afford not to send their kids to school. My kids are in daycare. As soon as they are fever free I’m sending them in. We can’t afford to take so much time off unfortunately.

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funsk8mom t1_j1qo76k wrote

That’s fine, you’ll just end up taking more time off as they continue to add to the Petri dish continuously making each other sick

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motherof16paws t1_j1rwhlb wrote

Maybe you should pay for our sitters for our sick kids. Parents are doing the best they can. Stop being a judgemental jerk.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1qsq37 wrote

How on earth are you a teacher and a mom, and you don’t realize that kids and school are permanent Petri dishes? The only way to stop kids from getting sick and spreading it at school is to stop having them go to school. Schools have ALWAYS been full of sick kids. Honestly, you do not have realistic expectations of schools and kids. Even colleges are hot spots… why do you think college kids need meningitis vaccinations?

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funsk8mom t1_j1qts9c wrote

You just said it - stop sending them to school. If they are sick, keep them home!

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1quah3 wrote

Find a way to pay for the parents to stay home! People who work hourly or service jobs don’t get paid if they don’t go in. How do you plan to change things so people can afford to stay home a full week with their sick kids? Until you have a plan for that, you are just complaining and doing nothing to fix the actual problem

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TinyEmergencyCake t1_j1qwq1z wrote

The solution here is to make the schools upgrade ventilation systems with the arpa money they got specifically to upgrade ventilation systems.

This infighting with each has to stop because nobody is winning and the kids are still sick. If instead you both used this energy to demand the schools do the ventilation upgrades we'd actually make progress and the kids would be less sick

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1r62dv wrote

Ventilation systems are a great idea! But to be honest, I didn’t waste much energy on this, and my career itself is focused on improving environmental conditions for future generations, so I do think I’m doing my share to better the world rather than just complaining

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1qys2p wrote

Sounds like the problem is more yours than the teacher's. Why should it be the teacher's responsibility to decide on any of this? It's probably more related to whoever you're voting for from town clerk to potus.

The change you're talking about will never happen because a teacher wants it. This teacher is just begging people to not spread disease. Pretty reasonable ask imo.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1r5vzz wrote

Dude, you got some serious issues. Did my comments set you off that bad? How many comments are you going to make talking shit about me? 😂😂😂

And the fact that you assume my kid is still in school and that I need a better job to take care of them is hysterical. People can have empathy without being in the fact same situation or have gotten out of poverty you know…

It’s clear I hit a nerve.

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ArmlessGeodude t1_j1r6f8t wrote

It's clear someone hit your nerve. I'm trying to defend the teacher you're attacking.

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KP8387 t1_j1rn686 wrote

What’s amusing about libs who constantly make excuses for inconsiderate and illegal behavior is that they always brake out the violin and lecture everyone about those hard working hourly employees who barely makes ends meet. Okay, I agree that those people have a difficult time keeping their sick kids home from school. Do you care to comment on everyone else who does it? How about the salaried employees who could afford to lose a day of work? Do they exist also or is that ignored by you because it doesn’t fit your political agenda?

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1rrhwm wrote

Not sure what your point is troll😂

Can you make coherent point? Or just say “libs” and get all whataboutism thinking you “got me”?

😂😂😂

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KP8387 t1_j1rxaju wrote

You don’t get my point? Are you being dishonest or are you just not very intelligent?

You are fake news.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1rydh7 wrote

Thank you so much for this entertainment! 😂

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KP8387 t1_j1s10ag wrote

You are welcome. MSNBC is broadcasting now if you would like to be fed your daily talking points. I hear that climate change is a crisis according to jet fuel burning politicians who own multiple homes is today’s message.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1rrojn wrote

Aren’t you conservatives all about personal responsibility? If teachers don’t like sick kids in their schools, they should just get another job! 😂

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KP8387 t1_j1rxqov wrote

I’m not conservative. You are.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1ry9c9 wrote

“I’m rubber, you’re glue…”

SAD! 😂😂😂😂😂

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KP8387 t1_j1s0l7h wrote

People’s illegal and immoral behavior is always justified if it fits a liberal’s political agenda. If the behavior does not, then it is unjustifiable. Examples where liberals support lawlessness and other immoral behavior include breaking immigration laws, adultery, Apple using low wage labor, liberals burning jet fuel while screaming about climate change, and sending kids to school to infect the elderly and vulnerable if they are an hourly employee.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1qrgwp wrote

I hope you never have to make that decision yourself. Holy ignorant condescension Batman!

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funsk8mom t1_j1qtlfr wrote

I have 4 children. I have made many job sacrifices for them

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1qu1nc wrote

I am so glad that you have enough money to be able to have 4 children, let alone sacrifice your job and still be able to feed them.

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Shnikes t1_j1qxn2q wrote

Can you explain? My wife is a teacher. She gets only so many paid sick days. Going without pay would hurt us financially. Mostly because of daycare itself. Because we either send the kids to daycare that we pay for or she takes too many sick days and we can’t pay for daycare. If we don’t pay daycare we lose our spot. If we can’t send our kids to for daycare then one of us needs to quit our jobs. If one of us needs to quit our jobs it makes it difficult to pay for our bills.

I’m just wondering how you’ve made these sacrifices unless your partner makes a significant amount of money that allows you to live life without worrying about money.

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funsk8mom t1_j1r2bir wrote

When they were young I didn’t work. That’s the sacrifice I had to make. We had to survive on his paycheck and my savings. Daycare was too expensive for 4 kids and if they got sick then I was able to be home with them. He doesn’t make enough for me to have stayed home but it’s what worked.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1rbmyj wrote

> When they were young I didn’t work.

Do you see how lucky you were compared to everyone else?

>We had to survive on his paycheck and my savings.

You had savings? Do you know how many people WISH they had this, or the option to live on one paycheck? You had a partner to share the costs? Do you know how many single mothers there are?

>He doesn’t make enough for me to have stayed home but it’s what worked.

Except he did make enough. Because you DID stay home. So like you said, it worked.

You have so much financial privilege that you don’t even know how lucky you were to even be able to have four kids, never mind have ANY choice in staying home. With savings?!?!?

I’m happy you were able to do that! For real, no sarcasm! But you need to adjust your thinking quite a bit if you think you didn’t have it better than 80% of parents

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funsk8mom t1_j1rel0e wrote

And I sacrificed everything. Years without a haircut so I could get my kids one. Years without new clothes so I could send my kids to school in properly fitted clothes. There was just enough dinner for the kids and husband, I didn’t have enough for me. Days of going to visit the grandparents during the day hiding the fact that we went there to stay warm because we ran out of oil and didn’t have the money to fill the tank. Phones turned off because bills weren’t paid (including landline). Dr appointments postponed because I didn’t have gas money, copay or parking money.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1rgzk1 wrote

Yes, and you were still better off than most parents. Please think about that. You think you are the only one who sacrificed, when you’ve actually had to sacrifice so much less than other parents. Did you choose to have 4 kids? Because the majority of people don’t have that many children and struggle just as hard, even with two incomes. The people you are judging for sending their kids to school when they can’t take the time off are doing worse than you ever did. My point is that you chose to be a teacher, and you struggled but never struggled as hard as most people did, so you should stop being so judgmental towards people doing the best they can in crappy circumstances.

Schools have ALWAYS been where germs are spread. And during the pandemic, people like me were still out there providing public services in person. Currently, Waitresses, grocery store clerks, retail, pharmacy techs and clerks, bank tellers, realtors, ummm, everyone!, gets exposed to sick people regularly without their consent. Choosing to be a teacher is choosing to be exposed to childhood germs more frequently than most, just like choosing to work in public service Means I’m exposed too.

Teachers aren’t any more special than everyone else. And you are being super judgmental when your experiences should show you that if YOU had it rough, with a partner and savings, then you you should realize that other people without savings or partners have it worse. Try empathy. You’ll be a better teacher and parent. Says a former teacher and a parent.

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GrouchyPerspective83 t1_j1rwek9 wrote

I understand your side of things but I have to disagree ...that teachers are really special. Education is everything to make the world a better place.

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1rxt36 wrote

First, I appreciate your respectful disagreement. And second, yes! Education is wonderful and vital to making the world a better place!

My point is that teachers aren’t any more special than all the other people who choose a career in public service, sacrifice for that public service career, and are put at risk in a variety of ways for that job. Or even more deserving of respect than anyone else in the world who are paid too little and have to be exposed to illness regularly. Like anyone in any public facing job.

Being a teacher is a wonderful calling, but it comes with certain downsides. The same as any other job. I will certainly say that they are more special than, say, someone who day trades for a living. They provide so much more to society! But not anymore than other public servants, and they shouldn’t be elevated to a position where they are both revered as making huge sacrifices while complaining about the sacrifices.

I say this as someone who has spent her entire career in government and nonprofit service. I work more hours and get paid the same, with tons of environmental risks. And NO ONE is happy to see a conservation agent show up at a job site or require a permit. But I chose this career. Public service comes with costs… I accept the costs in my career because I believe in its greater good.

But thank you for the reasonable and appropriate way you disagree with me! This is how good conversations happen. :)

Edit: “appropriate” was a weird word choice, but I can’t think of another better word right now

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funsk8mom t1_j1rh7lz wrote

I didn’t have 4 individual pregnancies

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MOGicantbewitty t1_j1rijhz wrote

Okay? That changes anything I said how? You still had it easier than most, and are still being judgmental and ignorant about how others live? The fact that you didn’t choose to have 4 children in 4 pregnancies completely backs up my point.

The point being that you should be able to emphasize since most people struggle just as bad without 4 children. And just like you may not have chosen to have four children in fewer than four pregnancies, plenty of parents didn’t choose to get pregnant in the first place, or to be a single parent. Try some empathy

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KP8387 t1_j1rk1fn wrote

Why did you have kids that you can’t afford? You just don’t give damn if you get anyone else sick?

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Shnikes t1_j1t64rl wrote

If some one has kids and doesn’t expect them to get sick their literally living in a dream world. My kid has gotten sick from plenty of other kids and vice versa. It sounds like you haven’t ever had to deal with daycare during Covid.

We lost $4000 because our daughter went to daycare for 4 days but we paid for two months. But our daughter never went back to that daycare because we weee forced to move. Anytime a kid has any symptoms we were forced to pull them out until they were negative or cleared by a doctor. We’ve paid thousands of dollars for childcare that our kids were unable to attend.

Pre-Covid this wouldn’t have been as big of an issue. If our doctor clears are kid I’m sending them because regardless we are forced to pay for the day. Staying home too often eventually leads to unpaid sick days while still needing to pay for daycare. I’m sending my kid in if the doctor clears it every time.

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