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bitee1 t1_jegtj2f wrote

Christianity is -

vicarious redemption / scapegoating - [John 3:16-17, Romans 3:25]

(https://www.esv.org/John+3:16%E2%80%9317;Romans+3:25/)

love is compulsory - [Matthew 22:36-40, Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, Matthew 12:30, Luke 14:26]

(https://www.esv.org/Matthew+22:36%E2%80%9340;Romans+13:8%E2%80%9310;Galatians+5:14;Matthew+12:30;Luke+14:26/)

thought crimes - [Matthew 18:9, Matthew 5:28-29 , Mark 9:47]

(https://www.esv.org/Matthew+18:9;Matthew+5:28%E2%80%9329;Mark+9:47/)

eternal punishment for finite crimes - [Mark 3:29, Matthew 25:41, Matthew 25:46, 2 Thessalonians 1:9, Jude 1:7]

(https://www.esv.org/Mark+3:29;Matthew+25:41;Matthew+25:46;Matthew+25:2;1+Thessalonians+1:9;Jude+7/)

inherited sins for a crime that never happened - [1 Timothy 2:14, Romans 5:12, Romans 5:19, Deuteronomy 23:2, Exodus 20:5]

(https://www.esv.org/1+Timothy+2:14;Romans+5:12;Romans+5:19;Deuteronomy+23:2;Exodus+20:5/)

ignorance worship/ credulity is rewarded - [Genesis 2:17, Proverbs 3:5-6, Romans 1:22, Psalm 14:1]

(https://www.esv.org/Genesis+2:17;Proverbs+3:5%E2%80%936;Romans+1:22;Psalm+14:1/)

no planning for the future - [Luke 18:22, Luke 12:33, Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21]

(https://www.esv.org/Luke+18:22;Luke+12:33;Matthew+19:21;Mark+10:21;Matthew+6:34/)

None of those things are moral or healthy in a civilized society.

It is the religious moderate majority who play a very important role in protecting, enabling and validating the harmful beliefs of the fundamentalists - by this fact they are indirectly harming others. The moderates by choosing to call themselves Muslims, Christians, Jews or Mormons are therefore choosing to group themselves with the people who are being honest to what their holy texts say and those who use their religion for harm. If there is nothing else that you can accept as a harm done by moderates, they do make it harder to criticize religion in public. They also defend their ultimately immoral and fundamental religion and they advocate for the intellectually dishonest use of religious faith.

Things that are or were enabled and validated - by moderate religious believers -

The U.S. supreme court advancing the religious right agenda - abortion / overturning Roe, religious schools supported by taxes, prayer in public schools

Indoctrination, faith healing, churches protecting child rapists, convent child abuse, convent nun abuse, condom use stance in places with HIV epidemics, anti-maskers / anti-vaxxers spreading covid at churches (by not social distancing), science/evolution denial, witch burning - the last pope warned people of witches and you can watch videos online of witch burnings, circumcision, female genital mutilation, overpopulation, quiverful movement, abstinence education, pro-birthers - fake pregnancy crisis centers outright lying and them suing for freedom of speech for rights to lie, personhood bills, televangelism - faith money seeds / prosperity gospel, statements of faith, oppression of women, oppression and hatred of gays, oppression and hatred of atheists, censuring/censorship, "intelligent design" suing for rights to lie in schools, slavery, genocide, forced conversion, exquisite torture, racism, human sacrifice, ethnic cleansing, empathy removal, threats of eternal punishment, religious wars, blood transfusion rejection, systematic child abuse, prayer for sickness instead of medicine or doctors, blue laws, contraceptive stance, rejection of vaccines, young Earthers, flat Earthers, bible literalists, supporting and protection of extremists, faith as a virtue, climate change denial, anti-atheist billboards, Christmas displays on public property, 10 commandments on public property, supposed "wars" on Christianity/christmas, no freedom from religion, churches are tax exempt, blasphemy laws, god on money and in the pledge, atheists are the most hated and least trusted, shunning responsibility, churches land ownership, churches hoarding money and art, court swear ins, lack of separation of church and state, bibles for Africa, anti-gay laws, apologetics, no adoption for gays, religious companies - birth control restrictions, chastity laws, religious companies - public anti-gay stance, religious forgeries, creation museum, shifting the burden of proof, death threats on atheists and critics, marriage vows over spouse abuse, prayer for first world problems, believers clinging on to every single tragedy or natural disaster, Christian rock, country - promoting superstition, mother Theresa (increasing suffering on the poor and stealing from "charity"), forced belief/no exits, not allowing questions, closeted religious gays speaking against gays, pious fraud, holy wars, wilfully spreading disease instead of closing churches during a pandemic, calling atheists "militant", opinion based "facts" and evidence, arrogance, god of the gaps, demanding respect/ that religions not be criticized, fundamentalists, cherry picking, ignorance glorification, idea and book worship, KKK, Westboro Baptist, marital rape, virgin execution rape, hudud (punishments), Sharia, honor killing, acid attacks, death for apostasy, child marriage, 72 perpetual virgins, terrorism, suicide bombing, stoning, beheadings and you can watch videos online of them, burqas(women full coverings), women's restrictions, ashura (flagellation including children), death fatwas(command to kill), jihads(holy war), taqiyya(deception for Islam), 9/11, Karma, castes

Abrahamic holy books support - murder, intolerance, slavery, infanticide, misogyny, genocide, incest, homophobia, xenophobia, torture, human sacrifice, sadomasochism, violence, revenge, bigotry

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jaffakree83 t1_jegx5ly wrote

Sounds like you're pissed off because religious people have a right to exist and express themselves.

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>None of those things are moral or healthy in a civilized society.

You're talking about a society that has convinced itself that people mutilating their own bodies and engaging in unrestrained hedonism is a healthy thing. A society that is probably a decade or two, (probably less) from making pedophilia an acceptable practice. A society that has already justified the practice of sex with animals in some western nations.

murder, intolerance, slavery, infanticide, misogyny, genocide, incest, homophobia, xenophobia, torture, human sacrifice, sadomasochism, violence, revenge, bigotry

I'll give you homophobia, which is an incredibly new concept, but Christians follow the new testament. Not sure where you get sadomasochism, torture, human sacrifice and bigotry/xenophobia though. Also incest was pretty strictly forbidden in Leviticus, at least when it came to close family.

Also you're making a sweeping generalization that all religions are responsible for all bad things done by every other religion, which is very intellectually dishonest. That'd be like saying atheism is responsible for every evil thing done by atheists.

And seriously, Christian Rock? That's as bad a the Westboro Baptist church? (which is considered a cult) Were you just filling space?

I'm sorry you blame every bad thing in human history on religious people. Maybe it's time you let go of some of that hatred and try to find some joy in life?

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