boyd_duzshesuck t1_jaane8y wrote on February 28, 2023 at 1:36 AM

Reply to comment by HoraceKirkman in Jackie Chan's last good movie? by Ebbemonster

This man speaks the truth - I really wonder how many people here actually watched JC's pre-Hollywood output.

I would even go farther even Drunken Master II was a bit iffy. I mean, the Andy Lau story went nowhere, Jackie Chan being clearly too old for the role he was playing, and the strange thing with Anita Mui being his...stepmom.

HoraceKirkman t1_jab96pd wrote on February 28, 2023 at 4:26 AM

If (a) Jackie is singing the credits song, and (b) Jackie is nearly dying in the outtakes at the end of the movie then you know you just had a good JC experience.

Ebbemonster OP t1_jaavuqp wrote on February 28, 2023 at 2:38 AM

I think that in pre-Hollywood Jackie had many of his best single moments because of his insane physicality, but he for sure didn't have his best overall movies. I have watched most of his movies with Sammo Hung and Yuen Biao, and thought they were too silly, and took away from Jackie's stunts to leave room for the less interesting guys. I have watched most of his historical movies, and just don't care much about all that, I want insane stunts. In some of his first solo movies he used to have awesome training montages, like in "Snake in the Eagle's Shadow", "Drunken Master" and "The Young Master. But much of those movies were just Jackie goofing around acting overly silly on bad fake-looking sets. The early stuff isn't always automatically the best.

HoraceKirkman t1_jab6fem wrote on February 28, 2023 at 4:02 AM

Snake in Eagle's Shadow is the weakest of the three you mentioned. I have a soft spot for the "you killed my master so now I must grow up fast" movies like Young Master, Drunken Master, Dragon Lord et al, but he really put it together in the Project A and Police Story movies. Plus - young Maggie Cheung and Michelle Yeoh!

HoraceKirkman t1_jab6t21 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 4:05 AM

How can you say Yuen Biao and Sammo are "less interesting"? Now, if we're talking "Winners and Sinners" or "Lucky Stars" movies, I agree - too little Jackie, too much lame humor.