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KiIgore-Trout t1_jab628v wrote

Not to nitpick, but The Killing Joke was 1988, so that dark gritty tragic joker has been around for 35 years at least in comics

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i-got-a-jar-of-rum t1_jab83t7 wrote

I won’t deny the impact that has had on the character’s depiction in the years since, including Ledger and Phoenix, but in this case it feels like an “over-representation” of the character, that he is and has always been this tragic figure trying to prove a point, rather than an elemental force of chaos that destroys because it amuses him. Besides, the Joker as portrayed by Phoenix is vastly different to the one in Killing Joke, where Arthur was always troubled and mentally disturbed even before he killed anyone, whereas in the graphic novel the character starts out as sane but massively depressed about life.

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