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WhyWorryAboutThat t1_iyczc6t wrote

I'm glad you're open to it. Another thought, some fans, myself included, like to think of Sam as the main hero. Frodo is quiet and is practically wandering around in a daze for the whole third film, while Sam is cooking for them and taking care of them. He has the one-liners (get back, you filth!), he gives the inspiring speeches (though Frodo helps him out with the one at the end of Two Towers), and he's the one Galadriel looks at when she says, "Yet hope remains." Also, in the books, after the war the Shire doesn't celebrate the day Sauron was defeated, or Frodo and Bilbo's mutual birthday; they celebrate Sam's birthday. It's sort of like that thing in Harry Potter where Neville was almost the chosen one. It isn't inherently better than Frodo being the hero but if you do ever watch it again, it will give you something new to think about.

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BenefitPale OP t1_iyd12v5 wrote

You know what it's something i also felt watching the movies. He was loyal and ready to die for him multiple times. Almost drowned in the first movie, fought a giant ass spider and all the things you mentioned, but i also think that frodo was the ring bearer so like he was constantly being drained, weakened and tortured by the ring. Destroying him internally on the top of the journey so he also did some heavy lifting on his part.

The way i see it without each other they for sure would've died. If it was sam alone he would've been lost in the journey not trusting golem if it was frodo alone he probably would've died due to golem's manipulation. And i liked the Neville comparison but until 8th movie neville wasn't in the picture while Sam was constant.

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