Like_Fahrenheit t1_j2ddm42 wrote
Reply to comment by MrBlahg in It's been said before, but I dislike how the PG rating has effectively replaced the G rating for animated movies. by Zealousideal_Art2159
Star Wars too. That had a bloodied severed arm, charred corpses, implicit torture, explicit torture, genocide, and racism (leia calling chewie a walking carpet).
blue_27 t1_j2debj6 wrote
Are you seriously saying that Star Wars was too edgy for you?
Ocular_Username t1_j2eh8my wrote
Moana and Star Wars are both rated PG. But they are vastly different in terms of content, like Maui doesn’t choke a dude and crack bones and throw him into a wall.
CobRooter t1_j2ekj2a wrote
The ratings never cared about violence, only how many F words and titles were on.
Like_Fahrenheit t1_j2defe8 wrote
No. Just that today it probably wouldn't be rated pg imo. Maybe I’m wrong
blue_27 t1_j2dgyt8 wrote
I suppose it might get a PG-13 rating.
Your last point about "racism" is a bit of a stretch. Was it also racist when Han called him a "furball"?
Like_Fahrenheit t1_j2dh7zl wrote
I'll agree to that being a stretch. as to Han’s remark, eh they're good friends so I presume chewie would let it slide as a joke.
3720-To-One t1_j2eyvxy wrote
“Laugh it up… Fuzzball.”
GatoradeNipples t1_j2eug3h wrote
I don't know why you're getting downvoted for this; ANH gets resubmitted every time they do a new edit of it, and gets the same PG every time, but they've had to trim the movie down to keep that PG.
We still don't know why exactly Greedo shoots first in the cantina in the newer edits, but one of the more smell-test-passing theories is that the MPAA griped about Han, a heroic character, gunning Greedo down in cold blood and threatened the movie with a PG-13 unless they changed it (and Lucas' apparent displeasure with having to make the change, with him going around wearing Han Shot First shirts in public, seems to indicate it wasn't his idea even if this isn't the case).
On top of that, while it's way, way more subtle, in the shot where Obi-Wan cuts that one alien's arm off, the current edits have the shot last for a much shorter amount of time (and, while I haven't actively checked against Harmy or 4K77, it seems to be a little zoomed in to hide the blood pool, with the blood being color-graded to be darker and more obviously alien). In the current edit, it's only on screen for about a second, whereas it's a pretty clear shot in every version up to at least 97 (the one I had on VHS as a kid).
3720-To-One t1_j2ezfoa wrote
That isn’t even in cold blood. Cold blood would be sneaking up and shooting a guy in the back.
Han was defending himself against someone pointing a gun in his face, trying to collect a bounty on his head, who for all he knew, could killed him at any moment.
It was self defense.
GatoradeNipples t1_j2f8o2d wrote
Sure, that's clearly how it's intended, but that's apparently not how the MPAA saw it.
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