spareparts91 t1_j2dzlwa wrote
Reply to comment by Papaofmonsters in was django an abolitionist? or only in it for broomhilda? by [deleted]
Lmao, does Django have to stop murdering white supremacists to look at the camera and say "slavery is wrong. I'm going to end it with a gun". You're a fucking clown for trying to assert that Django is completely fine with slavery. Anything you say to imply this is just proof you're arguing in bad faith. Do you just not want one of the themes of the movie to be slavery is bad? Are you bending over this far backwards to make this argument for some other reason?
Papaofmonsters t1_j2e0745 wrote
Slavery being bad is not the topic of discussion. It's about whether or not what Django was doing was direct action.
I'm not saying he's fine with it. I'm saying he doesn't care beyond getting his wife and getting the hell out of Dodge.
Human trafficking is bad, but in Taken Brian Mill's sole objective is to get his daughter back.
spareparts91 t1_j2e1qg1 wrote
No, you're the one arguing about direct action. The thread is "is Django an abolitionist" you're twisting the argument again and again to fit you're belief. Can I ask you this.
When the movie is done is Django's wife free? She is still property. He just killed her owners but someone else would just claim ownership. All of those slaves Django doesn't free but let's go peacefully; why? Their witnesses to his crime of murder and theft. If his goal is ONLY to save his wife and get out of doge as you claim, then why leave witnesses? Why let himself be known?
Using Brian mills from taken is such a disingenuous connection. Did Brian mills grow up as a human trafficking victim? Did he spend 30+ years being brutally abused in every way a human can be, only to have the chance to confront one of him and his wife's abusers? You're acting as if slavery doesn't play into the story about slaves killing their masters. If slavery had nothing to do with the story then why set the story in the south, during slavery, from a slaves perspective?
Maybe you're right. I'm stupid and you're smart. You understand film themes and I watch pretty colors.
Papaofmonsters t1_j2e2cuf wrote
>When the movie is done is Django's wife free? She is still property. He just killed her owners but someone else would just claim ownership.
Candie sells her to Schulz.
>Their witnesses to his crime of murder and theft. If his goal is ONLY to save his wife and get out of doge as you claim, then why leave witnesses? Why let himself be known?
Do you expect him to murder everyone on the plantation?
spareparts91 t1_j2e3a4g wrote
If his goal is to get out of dodge, than YES! You would leave no witnesses.
Dude, his goal is to save his wife from what again? From being a slave. Django was unchained from what again? Being a slave. Did he accomplish his goal directly or indirectly?
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