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blackrabbitsrun t1_j2bc5xv wrote

Reply to comment by TylerBourbon in Was Bruce Willis in Die Hard the ushering in of the modern everyman action star? by SquatOnAPitbull

Right? I think DC is the biggest culprit of this so far with Marvel quickly moving in. You watch Captain America: Winter Soldier, Tobey McGuire's fight with the Green Goblin, and Tom Holland's first fight with the Green Goblin, they get fucked up. I would say Cap gets it the worst out of the 3, considering he gets shot too, but they all get absolutely thrashed to the point they're barely holding it together. Anymore though, I can't really think of a Marvel hero who got it even half as bad. Chadwick Bosman from Black Panther, but...nope nothing else comes to mind.

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TylerBourbon t1_j2bepzw wrote

100% MCU was doing pretty decently with some of it's films from Iron Man 1 to Endgame. Characters got put through the ringer. And while I like the first 2 Nolan movies, the only one Batman even got hurt in was 3, but he it was more plot points to hurt him than just a by product of a brutal fight. At least with Pattinson's ending fight Batman nearly went down if it wasn't for what I suspect was venom but could have just been major steroids.

And Marvel is definitely moving away from realism it seems. Falcon and the Winter Soldier, did anyone even look tired after a fight, or like they broke a sweat? And Love and Thunder..... it was basically a Saturday Morning Cartoon when it came to Thor's fighting prowess, we were only missing him raising the hammer to the sky and yelling out that he had the power.

It's getting the point where it feels like the characters being tired or hurt is like a gun running out of ammo in an 80s action movie, only when the plot needs it to happen.

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blackrabbitsrun t1_j2bfre4 wrote

Yep. I genuinely can't bring myself to watch Love and Thunder past the one time. Marvel doesn't need to go to extremes but damn I would like the people to actually be people. That's what Marvel marketed their heroes as in the first place. Hopefully they swing things back the other way but I'm not holding my breath for it.

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jl_theprofessor t1_j2bm2a0 wrote

Man. Winter Soldier is still my favorite MCU movie.

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blackrabbitsrun t1_j2bov2y wrote

It is awesome. I love it. Perfect blend of funny and serious with some good dark in there too. I was hoping that would be Marvel going forward but sadly....

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