cosmicmanNova t1_j15orx2 wrote
Thor Love and Thunder is Waititi's Wonder Woman 1984
FxHVivious t1_j17clt1 wrote
Love and Thunder was not good, and it's def the worst thing Waititi's done, but it doesn't even begin to compare to WW84. I can't even remember the last movie I saw that was as bad as that dumbster fire.
BillFireCrotchWalton t1_j17qxrc wrote
It's so weird how it's this talking point now that Taika is washed up because of Thor 4. It's definitely the worst thing he has ever made, but there are legendary filmmakers who have had bigger duds. 99.9% of filmmakers have had multiple films worse than Thor 4.
FxHVivious t1_j17rltr wrote
Agreed. Everyone who's ever made a movie has at least one bad one. It's stupid to suddenly assume he's a hack because he had one kinda crappy movie.
Same for Patty Jenkins frankly. She doesn't have as many wins in her column as Waititi, and WW84 was way worse, but she could knock it out of the park on her next project.
well_damm t1_j18o8g6 wrote
Patty Jenkins had zero wins in her column. I still don’t understand why she was allowed for WW. The first one was mediocre too.
FxHVivious t1_j19pt09 wrote
I thought the first WW was good. Yeah it was equivalent to one of the middling Marvel movies, but compared to the rest of the DC movies that's a fucking homerun.
Ans didn't she do Monster? I never saw it, but I thought it was suppose to be good.
cosmicmanNova t1_j1ffn23 wrote
Charlize Theron won an award for Monster. Obviously, they wanted a female director so they went with her.
TheIncredibleDjango t1_j17rygu wrote
Mob mentality
crashbandicoochy t1_j17t2op wrote
It's what you get when you attach yourself to the disney/marvel brand where seemingly everything they put out ends in some kind of culture war that keeps the name of the movie in everyone's mouth for so long after release. Everything is either the best or the worst, underrated or overrated, everyone us washed up or a rising star.
It's why I find the Eternals so fascinating because, to this day, it's one of the only high profile Marvel/Disney movies that people reacted to like "yep, that was a movie" and then there was no discourse. It was refreshing. I miss it.
toe_and_hole_analyst t1_j1aqxqw wrote
I think I'm in the minority of people who see Love and Thunder as a critique and parody of Marvel films. It's not that I want to say Taiki was a supreme genius in doing so, but rather that he is disillusioned with the whole thing. When you can bang Rita Ora and Tessa Thompson at the same time, why does making Marvel movies seem important?
EDIT: majority to minority
mountainhighgoat t1_j15u9kq wrote
Yup. Wonder is Disney keeps him for Thor 5.
cosmicmanNova t1_j15v3yu wrote
Hemsworth basically said he doesn't want to work with Waititi again in comments about not wanting to work with mad genius directors lol
mininestime t1_j16k59e wrote
I thought he said he didnt want Thor to be a comedian anymore, which I agree with, and also could be a way to say no more Waititi. Love and Thunder was a bad comedy and not an action movie.
hackulator t1_j16pnbi wrote
The first half of the movie basically comes off like Waititi doesn't like the main character of his movie.
Davethisisntcool t1_j16gjy9 wrote
i need a source on this one
cosmicmanNova t1_j16pgio wrote
Did doing the show and going through these experiences focused on longevity change the way you plan your own future?
One hundred percent. I'm just at the point of my life where I'm meeting with different directors and [people say] “Oh yeah, look, he's a mad genius. He's mad, but he's a genius and he'll make great films.” I'm like, “Is that who I want to spend my days with?” Four months, five months of shooting and then you've got press and possible reshoots and so on.
ManwithaTan t1_j17i1bd wrote
Is this referring to Waititi? It seems a bit oblique in its answer
schleppylundo t1_j17nbu4 wrote
Yeah everything I’ve seen is that he got along with Taika great on the day to day, the Love and Thunder production looks like it was a lot of fun for most of the cast and crew (especially since their kids got to come along and take part in it) possibly to the detriment of the movie.
Hemsworth is explicitly talking about directors who make “masterpieces” but are difficult to deal with day to day. Which seems like the opposite of Love and Thunder.
cosmicmanNova t1_j180tc3 wrote
Sounds like George Miller and Waititi to me
ManwithaTan t1_j1c87nu wrote
That's kinda just you making an assumption tho right?
cosmicmanNova t1_j1ffrm3 wrote
Who else would it be? Hemsworth also said if he does another Thor, he wants it to be completely different, so no more goofiness probably
hambamthankyoumam17 t1_j172uyo wrote
whilst it wasn't as terrible at WW84, it is still an apt comparison
Josh100_3 t1_j183z5v wrote
The Love and Thunder hate confuses me. It’s obviously not even in the same ball park as Ragnarok but it’s insulting to compare it to WW 1984.
Movies are allowed to just be “ok”. They don’t have to all be 10/10’s or complete dumpster fires.
NotGodsThrowaway t1_j15stjb wrote
oh fuck off it aint. Some dumb jokes in the beginning, the rest was on par with Ragnarok.
cosmicmanNova t1_j15v00y wrote
Lol. It was fn terrible and way worse than Ragnarok.
stunts002 t1_j160ta8 wrote
It's the worst Thor movie which is impressive.
TheIncredibleDjango t1_j16w7s1 wrote
This guy thinks Dark World is better than Love and Thunder 😂 mob mentality/group think meets recency bias
stunts002 t1_j17wvbf wrote
Honestly I like dark world more than the first Thor too.
cosmicmanNova t1_j164lp1 wrote
I’d love to know what happened behind the scenes. If it was all Waititi or Feige or both.
Smallest-Yeet t1_j1601fu wrote
I’m sure a directors cut would be on par, but I’m sorry I just personally did not like L&T even close to how much I liked Ragnorok. In fact I would almost say I don’t care for L&T and wouldn’t watch it again. Pretty much the consensus with everyone I went to see it with and most people I’ve heard from online
o_bostil_foi_um_erro t1_j163h4d wrote
Which is just as bad.
Cmondatown t1_j1687dq wrote
Is that supposed to be a benchmark of goodness? Both were bad but his was so, so terrible.
Smallest-Yeet t1_j16be2v wrote
I mean Ragnorak was definitely a fun watch. Especially at the time before every marvel movie became a cheap slapstick comedy. L&T is just a chore to watch though
DrKurgan t1_j16d4ic wrote
IMO Ragnarok is the best Thor, the first one is boring, the 2nd is even more boring (one of the most boring movie I watched, even the actors looked bored). I haven't watched L&T since I heard it's terrible.
TheIncredibleDjango t1_j17sik4 wrote
Ragnarok is dope this group think hipster historical revisionism is so fucken stupid
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