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[deleted] t1_j6mu41v wrote

Reply to comment by Arumhal in Why Film Festivals Are Steering Clear of Controversial Movies by BobRobot77

What does conservatives and minorities have to do with movies?

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Foxhound97_ t1_j6mxe8o wrote

Despite all the complaining about the "Woke era" you until relatively recent most minorities creatives are the ones who had walk on eggshells to not offended the studio.When you talk about honestly who are we talking about here because I feel what you describing is the fact if you not a guaranteed blockbuster you'll get taking out of cinema after three weeks.

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Knife2MeetYouToo t1_j6o894g wrote

None of this was brought up, why are you inserting it into an argument when nobody is talking about it?

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Foxhound97_ t1_j6o8l1f wrote

Why are replying to me and not the person I'm responding to who originally put the topic ofcourse.But my point is when it comes creative control this idea of no studio oversight has never existed the only thing that changed are factors that they care and don't care about.

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Knife2MeetYouToo t1_j6o8sex wrote

Because from a neutral perspective you are arguing against something nobody brought up.

You need to tone down your bias when having a discussion.

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Foxhound97_ t1_j6o944q wrote

So you can open a discussion with moaning about things being woke but if you respond to that you are the one showing bais.

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Knife2MeetYouToo t1_j6o9zai wrote

> Despite all the complaining about the "Woke era" you until relatively recent most minorities creatives are the ones who had walk on eggshells to not offended the studio.

This is the part that makes no sense and wasn't brought up, it is mindbogglingly wrong.

That is where your bias is hurting you, because this just isn't a real thing in the film industry.

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Foxhound97_ t1_j6oab5w wrote

I've enjoy listening to interviews with creatives behind the scenes who talked about compromises they had to make on certain subjects that are much more widespread now my point is he didn't have an opinion on it ten years ago.

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Knife2MeetYouToo t1_j6oajvu wrote

Do you have any examples to share?

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Foxhound97_ t1_j6ocr19 wrote

Spike Lee talked about it,David Simon (who is white but usually forces on race) who wrote the wire talked about how he only allowed to go to far with some of the race so not offend the white audaince members and I believe issa rea had similar issues getting her show made until it was on HBO because most studios were willing to make unless changes were made.

If I'm including ones that started production but were never made the Danny glover haitian revolution movie is a really interesting thing to read about.

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Knife2MeetYouToo t1_j6oegy5 wrote

You kind of proved my point here, minorities have not had any issue in the last 20-30 years telling their stories. There has been almost no pushback to that from studios, in fact minorities are far, far over-represented in film and TV compared to the national demographics.

Some white people have gotten pushback for trying to tell black stories, but does that really surprise you?

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Foxhound97_ t1_j6ogin7 wrote

I gave you an example from each decade and one of them is a white guy who had almost no black people critique his work negatively (although that's mostly because he's from a journalism background so he actually knows how to research properly).

I also don't think you understand what we're talking about I'm talking about writers and directors not actors.

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