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SoWhatHappened2U t1_jbcvhtv wrote

Parents in general do care about this. Many parents are silenced by the mob (probably all you guys). There is a social contagion portion of this that's going to harm kids that are just messed up/going through a rough phase. Some reasonable guard rails need to be put in place for anyone under 18 and in publicly funded schools. If there isn't eventually public schools are going to shrink and are only going to be for those that can't afford to buy their way out.

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Larovich153 t1_jbcx1l6 wrote

There are reasonable guard rails. My little sister is trans, and before even getting a legal diagnosis, she needed to not only talk to three therapists and also talk with our parents the entire way. An under-age trans person needs to go through months of therapy doctors appointments and gain the approval of their parents for any medical help. however if what you are against are teachers calling students by the name that they want to be called rather than their birth name, then you are being ridiculous.

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Dirtymike_nd_theboyz t1_jbg9xgh wrote

I like how you just sneak "under-age" into this. We all see what you are doing. Literally sexualizing children, in school, then acting surprised when people express outrage.

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averageduder t1_jbh5be5 wrote

Sexualizing his little sister? Do you think anyone is is convinced that you’re anything other than a bad faith actor with this rhetoric

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Larovich153 t1_jbh5rnc wrote

Ah, yes, the accusation that all people that are trans or support trans people are pedophiles, the same one used by homophobes when talking about homosexuals in the sixties in films like boys beware. It's almost like you bigots say the same dam thing every time a marginalized group starts to be accepted by society.

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SomeCalcium t1_jbl3c82 wrote

Someone identifying as a different gender than their biological sex isn't sexualizing them. If you all want to join in on this conversation, you need to stop associating homosexuality and transgender folks with sexual deviancy. No one is thinking about them in a sexual manner but you guys.

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YBMExile t1_jbe349k wrote

Reasonable guard rail? It’s not like school is passing out hormone suppressants and booking surgeries. Schools acknowledge that trans people exist in our society.

This is about using preferred pronouns, maybe reasonable bathroom access, and not being hateful bigots. Is it really that much to expect?

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SoWhatHappened2U t1_jbevlqf wrote

If someone needs a bill to state that teachers can't lie to you about your own child then no... the right guardrails are not yet in place. Some teachers and school officials are doing more than acknowledging trans people, to state otherwise is either naive or disingenuous. You can't have a real discussion on this if you don't concede there are real concerns and issues on both sides. Everyone that disagrees with you is not a hateful bigot.

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YBMExile t1_jbex2tq wrote

Please be specific. What exactly are teachers/administrators doing wrong right now, in the year of our lord 2023, for NH (or American) public school students, as it pertains to trans students. You can cite a real life example in the news or from your own kids, if you have them, or ???. Seriously, if you don't want to be perceived as a hateful bigot, say something substantive. We'll wait.

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SoWhatHappened2U t1_jbfvyai wrote

Again... Not productive to label anyone with a different opinion a hateful bigot. If you want to troll then I guess troll on. As for examples there are multiple lawsuits across the country where parents were excluded from decisions relating to a child's gender at school. Not including parents in discussions and decisions that affect a child's emotional and physical health is wrong. I am a parent with children in NH public schools so yeah I have skin in the game. Any new law that puts in a guard rail to prevent that is resonating with parents. They just don't want to discuss it with you because you immediately label them bigots, fascists or whatever.

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YBMExile t1_jbfwst3 wrote

No, YOU put the "hateful bigot" word in my mouth. I'm trying to add substance to a discussion that is often too vague and too loaded to be useful. Aside from that, can you give an example? Even a hypothetical. "not including parents in discussions" doesn't really say anything. "guardrails" doesn't say anything. If this is meaningful to you, and you have skin in the game, can you please say more about what you realistically think this bill addresses? What wrongs are corrected?

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