Submitted by Final_Act6703 t3_y9dr5s in newhampshire
pahnzoh t1_it5mzlx wrote
Reply to comment by BowTiedAgorist in Dr. Tom Sherman vows to legalize weed by Final_Act6703
If you trust a democrat to do anything you're either young, a fool, or both.
nhmo t1_it5ycq7 wrote
Yeah I'm getting pwned by my belief in college loan debt cancellation and desire for infrastructure revamping right now
BowTiedAgorist t1_it7mhyc wrote
Infrastructure bill that is literally just a giant payday for some of the biggest corporations in the US? Offering 40k dollar rebates to companies like walmart to buy electric shipping vehicles from automakers like ford\gm who's manufacturing isn't even in the US anymore? Or offering billions to telecoms to run copper\fiber to rural areas when we already paid them to do that in the 90s and better technology already exists? Or the billions that will end up in the hands of Chinese solar\EV manufacturers using child labor in africa to make giant holes in the earth looking for cobalt?
A debt cancellation that's going to end up slapping borrowers with giant tax bills in most states and already disqualified 700k applicants?
Student loan bill that offers means tested relief and doesn't' bother to fix the actual problem within the fed-loans? Which falls well short of the average accumulated debt these borrowers struggle with.
The student loan bill which benefits upper middle class whites more than it does any minority borrower, who have historically been forced into less fruitful degrees by racist university admins, and have had to rely on private loans which aren't even touched?
A student loan bill that puts the greed of the entire academic class on the backs of the 70% of the US workforce that don't hold degrees - I'm sure that will go over real well with the blue collar dem base.... I guess you can always just call them racist for another 10 years.
All of which is another few trillion dollars printed to add to our ever increasing inflation?
Enjoy your scraps after getting honey dicked, again.
KrissaKray t1_it6ubqr wrote
Yeah, neither of which are actually happening soooo
nhmo t1_it6uk5a wrote
You mean the infrastructure bill that was already passed and the debt cancellation order that was signed and the challenge was just thrown out yesterday?
Keep shoving your head up your own ass if you want to ignore the factual world around you.
KrissaKray t1_it6upwx wrote
I sure do mean those things. The student debt loan forgiveness was unconstitutional so it’s being challenged. And the infrastructure bill has so many things wrong with it, we probably wont see anything positive about it happening near us any time soon.
I prefer basing my beliefs in reality 💁🏼♀️
nhmo t1_it6uyor wrote
THE CHALLENGE WAS THROWN OUT YESTERDAY.
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negsteri t1_it72ody wrote
Both challenges were thrown out yesterday. Infra Bill already passed.
doofthemighty t1_it7g76r wrote
Don't confuse them with facts, they know what they believe.
RickyDaytonaJr t1_it6xo93 wrote
The infrastructure bill is actually having significant benefits. Dozens of local bridge projects around the state have been advanced. Also, large projects that were underfunded and languishing are now fully funded and have advanced to the engineering phase. Some communities are even receiving direct federal grants. For instance, Manchester just got awarded a $25 million grant from the infrastructure bill to make improvements throughout the City, including reconstructing the Queen City Ave/Cilley/Willow Street interchange.
llambo17 t1_it7hn53 wrote
Our I89 bridge over the CT river into Vermont still has not been finished and it has been 5 years, and the repaving they did 2 years ago has already degraded and gone to shit.
otiswrath t1_it789ri wrote
Please explain how it is unconstitutional.
KrissaKray t1_it7dfi2 wrote
Congress has the power of the purse, not the president.
BowTiedAgorist t1_it7ljc1 wrote
That only matters if congress does its actual job though.
Which, given the last twenty years of unabated undeclared wars is a slim hope
KrissaKray t1_it7uc61 wrote
No. It always matters. Congress controls the purse and that’s how it works. You can’t just go around them because you want to.
BowTiedAgorist t1_it7vff9 wrote
You can absolutely go around them when congress and the courts don't bother to enforce it.
I understand the fundamentals of your argument and the checks and balances between branches - but congresses whole mo for the last thirty years is being derelict in their duties.
We just fought a 20 year long war in Afghanistan without a declaration of war.
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farts_in_the_breeze t1_it6vk1s wrote
It isn't? There is construction all over New Hampshire expanding and updating the highways. What world you living in?
otiswrath t1_it784a5 wrote
Please give me one Republican policy from the past 30 years that has benefited the average American.
I may be a fool but I certainly am not young and all I have seen them do over my lifetime is get us into unnecessary wars, blow the only budget surplus in my lifetime, and support a wannabe dictator who tried to overthrow the government.
Do I think Democrats are perfect? Not by a long shot but I would prefer misguided with good intentions over war mongering and tax breaks for the wealthy.
llambo17 t1_it7h705 wrote
>war mongering
Like the current democrats actively supporting and funding a war against Russia leading to a stalemate and nuclear tensions?
otiswrath t1_it7uvro wrote
As per usual the only leg Republicans can stand on is "Whataboutisms".
I think much of this is debatable but regardless my original question remains unanswered.
Can you give one policy initiative from the Republicans that helps the average American?
You could make the argument for the First Step Act as it was introduced by a Republican and signed by a Republican president but it is widely considered a bipartisan act and was only opposed by Republicans so that's a pretty soft argument.
Again, not a huge fan of Democrats but at least they are actually trying to make things better for people.
BowTiedAgorist t1_it7okur wrote
- Wars
Barack Obama literally started funding a genocide in Yemen. Bidens withdraw from Afghanistan was a humanitarian disaster. Clintons state department basically turned Libya into a failed state and Syria into a warzone. We have been funding bothsides of the GWOT for twenty years and continued under Biden. The entire middle east conflict goes back to US foreign policy dicking around for oil.
Energy independence has always been and will always be our best way to reduce warmongering...
- Surplus
Has more to do with Dole\Gingritch and the deal with America that married spending cuts with Clintons tax increases. Also the idea of a budgetary surplus when the nation was four trillion dollars in debt is hilarious. Imagine I had 40k dollars in credit card debt, but say I have a surplus because of the 20 in my pocket.
- Supporting Wanna Be Dictators
I'm not sure if you mean 1/6 or supporting the color revolution we threw in ukraine in 2014 to support neo-nazis in their government now?
- Tax breaks
otiswrath t1_it7uq25 wrote
As per usual the only leg Republicans can stand on is "Whataboutisms".
I think much of this is debatable but regardless my original question remains unanswered.
Can you give one policy initiative from the Republicans that helps the average American?
You could make the argument for the First Step Act as it was introduced by a Republican and signed by a Republican president but it is widely considered a bipartisan act and was only opposed by Republicans so that's a pretty soft argument.
Again, not a huge fan of Democrats but at least they are actually trying to make things better for people.
BowTiedAgorist t1_it84utk wrote
>Again, not a huge fan of Democrats but at least they are actually trying to make things better for people
Yet you give them a pass on literally everything you accuse Republicans of? I'm of the opinion that its all one big uniparty for and by the kleptocracy - they just have different ways of attracting naïve voters. Republicans with nostalgia\Christian morality, Dems with hedonism\post-modern morality.
I'd be happy to give you a list of everything I think Republicans have done in the last 30 years that was beneficial, but being as you proved yourself disingenuous with your original comment - I figured it would be better to show you your own hypocrisy. IE Supporting some of the worst warcrimes in the last 20 years because a Dem did it.
Hey remember that time Joe Biden drone struck an innocent family of 10! For literally no reason...
Here is my short list though:
- Dole\Gingrich Deal with America - an example provided above you promptly ignored
- Bush funding Africa - reduced the spread of aids, increased malaria drugs, and access to water
- Trumps border policy - actively combatted sex trafficker's, took money from cartels coffers, and a whole host of human misery reduced - despite rhetoric about kids in cages
- Trump again - Historic levels of funding to black colleges, lowest black unemployment rate in fucking generations, only president in the last 50 years to not get us involved in a brand new shooting war. (your entire idea that dems are anit-MIC is sooo far off base)
- Energy Independence - Trump focusing on domestic\north american energy production has been something we've needed to do... since Eisenhower. better yet if we actually started working with south America to create energy independence for the entire western hemisphere so we can stop playing around in sandboxes with inbred saudi royals. We really needed to scale up our domestic refinement oil refinement to minimize the exportation of crude.
Progress that was promptly aborted by Pedo Peter in the name of climate change, despite the fact that we reduced emissions further than the kyoto\paris agreements would have required.
- Tax cuts - link already provided (you chose to ignore) that actually benefited the poor\middle class more than the rich - as proven by IRS data in the link provided. Less theft by government is inherently a good thing, I don't care if its from millionaires or people on food stamps.
In a sane world - less taxes would be less bombs dropped on children - but here we are.
pahnzoh t1_it7d5v7 wrote
Where did I say I support Republicans?
Fuck them and Democrats. Democrats are pieces of shit this lesser of two evils game doesn't work.
BowTiedAgorist t1_it7lcqx wrote
best not to engange with binary thinkers.
otiswrath t1_it7uz7s wrote
As per usual the only leg Republicans can stand on is "Whataboutisms".
I think much of this is debatable but regardless my original question remains unanswered.
Can you give one policy initiative from the Republicans that helps the average American?
You could make the argument for the First Step Act as it was introduced by a Republican and signed by a Republican president but it is widely considered a bipartisan act and was only opposed by Republicans so that's a pretty soft argument.
Again, not a huge fan of Democrats but at least they are actually trying to make things better for people.
BowTiedAgorist t1_it5n9gc wrote
I agree - but at the heart of every cynic is an optimist hoping to be proven wrong.
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