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Impossible-Bear-8953 t1_iuhpcal wrote

Note: the podcast hosts said they were canceling the event themselves. Not Dartmouth.

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HPenguinB t1_iuhv9oc wrote

>Report this dumb ass post for misinformation.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhpj8r wrote

Semantics. Dartmouth forced them to cancel by pulling the rug out from them 5 days before the event.

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Impossible-Bear-8953 t1_iuhqu76 wrote

Your headline said Dartmouth canceled it. It didn't. Dartmouth canceling suits your narrative, the hosts doing it doesn't.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhrcve wrote

Again, it is semantics. The agreement was that they were doing the show in partnership with a student group and it was open to the public with no other restrictions. The student group was then removed as sponsor, the college restricted access to students only after tickets were sold and required an opening speech from someone with no association with the event. I believe they also said they would require all questions to be pre-screened. For all intents and purposes they forced the cancellation by adding all the changes.

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EricPostpischil t1_iuhup8z wrote

> Again, it is semantics.

Semantics is meaning. When you say it is semantics, you are saying it is meaning. Yes, the meaning of some words is correct, and the meaning of some other words is incorrect. Meanings matter. When you say it is semantics, you are acknowledging that what you said is incorrect and what the other person said is correct.

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natethegreek t1_iuhucny wrote

>Again, it is semantics. The agreement was that they were doing the show in partnership with a student group and it was open to the public with no other restrictions. The student group was then removed as sponsor, the college restricted access to students only after tickets were sold and required an opening speech from someone with no association with the event. I believe they also said they would require all questions to be pre-screened. For all intents and purposes they forced the cancellation by adding all the changes.

I could not disagree more about it being semantics, this would be a major piece of information.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhv6xy wrote

Think of it like this - you booked a wedding for 200 people with a band, food vendor and cake vendor. Five days before the wedding, the venue calls to tell you the guest limit is changed to 50 people only, you cannot have a band or your own food vendor but they will provide a DJ and food from their own vendor, take it or leave it. Of course you are going to walk away. Technically you cancelled but for all intents the venue put in so many restrictions it forced your hand. It is no different.

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natethegreek t1_iuhwlt3 wrote

I see your point but lets take it a step further, what is your remedy? Force a private institution to hold an event? That seems like a bad precedent.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iuhy2hy wrote

No, I understand that the college can pretty much do what they want when it comes to on campus events. I guess I'd say in this case, given how close it was to the event that the college should have stayed the course, added some extra security and then saw how it went. I suspect it would have been a big nothing burger as the show is really more about internet bullshit and the impact that cancel culture has on people who have been subjected to it. They are pretty vocal about trans issues but they are more in the Bill Maher school versus coming from a right wing or hateful perspective. Hell one of the hosts is a lesbian van lifer. If that is not enough street cred for coming to Dartmouth, I dont know what is.

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Stop_Drop_Scroll t1_iuhwpvn wrote

The difference is that you pay for the wedding space. Are these hosts paying to host a show, being paid to host a show, or was it free to host/attend? Kinda make a difference in this comparison.

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Hilarias_Glucose_Cup OP t1_iui19k7 wrote

I don't see how paying for it matters but you are right in that I don't think there was a contract in place. So assume the venue for the wedding in my example is at a friends backyard for no cost. Same theory applies.

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