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Rare_Message_7204 t1_ivw7okz wrote

Who cares. What does being trans have to do with the job? It's like congratulating someone for being the first with red hair, doesn't matter.

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butterguns t1_ivw95vs wrote

We aren’t congratulating this person, we are congratulating society for having overcome some of their base prejudices.

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Rare_Message_7204 t1_ivwarex wrote

Well, I just don't think it matters. To each their own.

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beerpatch86 t1_ivwoma0 wrote

It just helps normalize it. Like more TV shows and movies having gay characters. Because surprise, we exist, and we just do the shit "the straights" do like... food shopping, go to the bank... other shit. People shit. Because yknow, we're all just people.

It shouldn't matter. But it does, because some people can't mind their own goddamn business and have a huge shitfit about "the gay agenda" or something.

Normalizing helps. A little bit, but it does help.

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beyond_hatred t1_ivx7qgo wrote

You have to give credit where it's due. The Republicans have been waging a propaganda war against transgender people for this whole election cycle. They were exploited as the "wedge issue" this time around.

They'll probably stfu about it over at Fox now that the election's over.

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Rankin37 t1_ivwxgsz wrote

People seeing people who are like them doing important things in the world matters more than you think it does, especially when they are part of a marginalized group.

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djdirectdrive t1_ivxubeh wrote

You got down voted hard for this but I agree with you to a point here. Your statement is also one of privilege where it sounds as if you haven't had to deal with societal oppression of any sort .

You're right... It shouldn't matter. We should be in a society where competence, not race, gender, sexual orientation should matter. But that's not true yet. Trans people are not accepted by many, which means trans people will not come out of the closet for fear of retaliation. Seeing a trans person be open and successful will help others in many ways. It also starts to show that trans people are the same as hetero so there's less of a divider due to differences. So celebrate the wins and eventually, hopefully, others will start to accept people for their contributions.

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mackerdoots t1_ivy3gcw wrote

Well said. While there might be people struggling that need this kind of affirmation I worry about the people that would have lived a perfectly confident and happy life before seeing some example that made them question their own identity. I think outcasting people with gender dysphoria can be harmful but I also think celebrating it as some example to strive for can set an unhealthy trend. Whether it’s people who are just introverted and isolated looking for a way of being accepted or the FOMO that gets us all at some point. It should be accepted, recognized, and tolerated to normal extents. but celebrating it only helps those already struggling and I think long term it drags more people into that struggle that otherwise would have led a pretty dysphoria free life

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Rare_Message_7204 t1_ivy0ngl wrote

I appreciate the civil response. I think I got downvoted by a bunch of people who just don't want to understand any other way of seeing it... Your assumption that my statement is from privilege is wrong and it's sad that by default you can say that without knowing me. I've seen plenty of adversity in my life and see it everyday working with inner city kids.

What I can say is that when I was in school nobody talked about someone being gay/trans or what your skin color was and because it wasn't talked about, nobody cared. Now, I see more negative talk about those subjects than ever.. I think when you put such an emphasis on these sorts of things, they'll end up being less accepted. They're being shoved down people throats. It's not going to work IMO. Downvote if you want, its my opinion and my experience.

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Azr431 t1_ivy9td6 wrote

All lives matter guy here

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Rare_Message_7204 t1_ivycd2f wrote

Someday, all you "open minded" redditors will realize your just as bad as the people you "hate".

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cafeRacr t1_ivx3igf wrote

>Also no one gives a fuck that you don’t care dipshit. Stfu and keep scrolling if you really don’t care.

You had me until this. This is what's wrong with the way people communicate these days. Why ruin everything thing that you said, that had value, with that? When you're trying to change the way someone thinks, or make them say to themselves "I've never thought of it that way before", you're not going to do it by finishing with an insult.

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Rare_Message_7204 t1_ivy1k5t wrote

Hurling insults at me and being Tired of these people? You don't even know me. Sad, Read my response to another commenter above. Don't be so quick to jump down peoples throats. I just have a different opinion of how to best to get society to be more accepting. You being so quick to draw doesn't help anyone.

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djdirectdrive t1_ivxuv33 wrote

My favorite is people saying..."what's it matter if someone's first at doing something?".... But then talk about the Superbowl for days

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BirdsLikeSka t1_ivx4zn5 wrote

Idk about redheads (even as one) but I've seen dumb comments hateful on Biden specifically for being Catholic. We'd only had one catholic pres before and he went out with a bang.

Not personally huge on Biden, nor catholicism, but point stands.

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Ok_Afternoon6984 t1_ivy4z8p wrote

Actually 2 catholic presidents jfk and trump Biden is the 3rd

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BirdsLikeSka t1_iw0unbx wrote

I don't like the man, but I'm not saying this in any kind of anti-Trump way: He's not Catholic. I've never seen him or any media (on either side) report he's Catholic. I would seriously like to see your source on this.

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cwalton505 t1_ivyetv9 wrote

in many ways, yes. However, i would suppose for those who fall in this category its nice to see that its no longer an absolute banishment in society and people are able to look past the "weird" and look at their political competencies the same as everyone else finally? You might not care, and now days many probably don't, but it wasn't too long ago that the vast majority of America would have considered them a social pariah.

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_That_One_Fellow_ t1_ivwsvhx wrote

That’s the truth, but for some people sexual orientation and perceived gender matter above all else nowadays.

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