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pahnzoh t1_iw2zmw7 wrote

Reply to comment by Dasmer in Farmington child hospitalized for RSV in Maine after family cannot find NH beds by every1getslaid

I guess you missed the middle comment I made. Not saying it's 100% useless.

https://time.com/6230059/covid-19-variants-omicron-vaccine/

But, anyone still worrying about COVID is sad. Move on.

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Dasmer t1_iw32pup wrote

I did not, “limited positive effects” does not translate to “can prevent you from dying hooked up to a breathing tube.” The vaccine is an incredibly powerful tool to preserve human life. Because of that, I am not afraid or worried about COVID, but I will be again if people shirk the vaccine which causes hospitals to clog up and critical care is denied to those that have illnesses without an easy to take vaccine.

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pahnzoh t1_iw3btbz wrote

I guess you ignored the 3 day old article I posted saying the new variants evade the vaccines quite effectively.

The most important thing we can do is to get everyone in this country to stop being obese and unhealthy.

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pahnzoh t1_iw3zppu wrote

Character assassination is easier than responding on the merits.

Trust me, I'm much more educated than you. Unfortunately I don't eat less soy though.

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Dasmer t1_iw4sdj1 wrote

Why are you mentioning the frequency of your soy ingestion?

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foodandart t1_iw4hr78 wrote

> The most important thing we can do is to get everyone in this country to stop being obese and unhealthy.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Too much plastic in the environment now, all those xenoestrogens fucking everyone's metabolic processes up.

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Crazy_Hick_in_NH t1_iw66tbn wrote

Yeah, easier said than done…poor people can’t eat healthy, it’s too friggin expensive.

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Darwins_Dog t1_iw73jfh wrote

IDK if you knew this, but Time isn't a scientific journal. This is a fear mongering piece intended for people like you to share as proof that vaccines don't work. The non-editorialized data are pretty clear that vaccines do work, just not as well against new variants.

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pahnzoh t1_iw7f1iv wrote

It's referring to actual studies.

I'm talking about the vaccines performance now. Not a year ago or whenever in the past.

People are so dogmatic about vaccines as soon as they see the word their reptilian brain just goes haywire. It's okay to admit its a complex issue and the vaccines are not that great in November 2022 since the predominant strains in circulation have heavily mutated.

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Darwins_Dog t1_iw7wbef wrote

It includes a lot of links to make it look like they refer to actual research, but very little reference to actual research. Of the 10 links in the article, 5 are to other articles written by Time, 2 are to data about the prevalence of omicron variants, 1 is the GSAID homepage, and 1 is a treatment guideline update for monoclonal antibody treatment. Also at least 3 of the linked organizations (CDC, NIH, and GSAID) recommend vaccines and boosters for anyone eligible.

So 1 of 10 references is an actual (preprint) article about reduced vaccine efficacy. It also shows (figure 1b, c, d) that vaccination boosters provide a substantial increase in titers of neutralizing antibodies to all variants examined.

The point of this article is for people to read it while "researching" vaccine information and share it to bolster an argument. It contains almost no relevant information and what it has it heavily editorialized. I guess I can't fault them too much because it worked on you 100%.

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