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11_Wolfie_11 t1_j34r9xw wrote

Reply to comment by Vivid-Construction93 in Police shot Gilford teen allegedly armed with a knife within two minutes of arriving, call logs show by SweetFeetLivingston

Not to be antagonistic, or anything. That other guy brought up the point of “Well it could have been a big ole 17 year old and it might have been a little ole lady who shot him dead” Maybe, but the report I read stated that the perp was tasered by one officer, then shot by another.

I’ll lay it down right here, the NH State Troopers are badasses. How many of them, strapped and armored up do you think came out of that Trooper van in the picture? Let alone every on duty town cop and possibly (maybe) Sheriff in the area.

But yes, good point. A cop doesn’t deserve to die over some kid that someone called upon said cops. But, said cops have taken on theoretical responsibilities to “protect and serve.”

On a side note, knives are much more threatening psychologically, than they are in practicality. Especially with Kevlar, and a gaggle of mutually motivated participants against it.

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Vivid-Construction93 t1_j34saft wrote

Id argue the knife statement a bit but thats not what id say is the root of the discussion. Things im curious about is the previous mental health calls that came out in the news and what was the cause/outcome and the toxicology report just for the small chance this teenager was under the influence of a substances capable of allowing him to push through a taser

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Vivid-Construction93 t1_j34skr7 wrote

Ill also add im not exactly pro cop but i will absolutely admit its an extremely stressful and nuanced job that often in the public eye has no right answers

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11_Wolfie_11 t1_j34uxoo wrote

I think if the cops are called, and some kids running around with a knife, there’s definitely drugs involved.

My only problem with nuance being gifted to law enforcement, is that nuance is not gifted to law breakers in reciprocation.

As for the knife thing, grappling with someone who has a weapon isn’t a whole lot different from grappling with someone who doesn’t. If you’re close to the person and have an underhook on the armed arm, there’s not a lot of leverage for them to kill you with. Definitely hurt you, but then again, there’s a bunch of other guys around you to help out…or how about this: PCP may be able to beat a taser, but not the physics of non-lethal projectile weapons, which exist.

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Vivid-Construction93 t1_j34zvqp wrote

Ehhh i understand that to a degree on the lawbreakers end but i think i mostly understand your sentiment. As far as the knife id say that also very much depends on the knife and your argument involving a bordering required circumstance of getting the underhook theres not much stopping you from catching a blade to the throat or another vital area

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11_Wolfie_11 t1_j352hyz wrote

True, especially if the person is very tall. But still, rubber bullets. For fucks sake, they knew where they were going, and for what purpose. If someone were to tell me that there’s not a gas that’s been devolved that they could just launch in the window and go fetch him up, I would be flabbergasted.

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notchrisgoldecker t1_j4t6bln wrote

I will say that I knew him and he didn't weigh more than 140 lbs. The "perp" wasn't some big bad ass

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11_Wolfie_11 t1_j4tcycu wrote

I think you misunderstand the direction of my comment.

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notchrisgoldecker t1_j4uvyjj wrote

I apologize then.

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11_Wolfie_11 t1_j4y14a6 wrote

No need. I think I said a bunch of stuff on this thread that was downvoted to the point where it’s out of view. But thats not really important.

You are, however, in a unique position to put a truth out there that nobody else will otherwise hear.

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