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backdraft29 t1_j9yf46m wrote

Maritime vessels have been using sonar for something like 80 years

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IBetThisIsTakenToo t1_j9zfgnn wrote

Whales have been hating it for 80 years, too. I’m not saying this mapping is the cause for this specific event, but it’s definitely true that sonar scares the shit out of whales, and they can beach themselves because of it. It’s at least plausible. Not a good reason to stop all wind farms forever (climate change is still the bigger danger), but if it is causing this, maybe we need to explore different methods of mapping, if possible

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_mammals_and_sonar

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Tough_Obligation5981 t1_ja2zjus wrote

Sorry but Wikipedia is generally a very poor and unreliable source for accurate scientific information. Now post some links to peer-reviewed reports, not sponsored by the fossil fuel industry, big pharma, the military industrial complex, etc, and I’m all ears.

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IBetThisIsTakenToo t1_ja3mphc wrote

> not sponsored by the fossil fuel industry, big pharma, the military industrial complex, etc, and I’m all ears.

You think the military industrial complex is against sonar? They invented it! No one would be against banning sonar more than the US military haha

I have to hand it to big oil though, these links started to be noticed as far back as the 1960s. Very prescient of them to start faking the data way back then, knowing that 60 years later it would give them a feeble argument against one type of alternative energy!

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MillennialsAre40 t1_j9yju4g wrote

So is every one of them using a fish finder on their cabin cruiser

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whaler76 t1_j9ynk33 wrote

Don’t everyone get their knickers in a bunch, all I’m saying is there is a big difference from a recreational fish finder to ocean floor (and whats below it) mapping sonar.

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Nebakanezzer t1_ja0jrva wrote

Shhhh, they don't care about science. They just want something to back their political beliefs

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