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restricteddata t1_iti1twm wrote

They literally believe that Democrats worship Satan, want to murder babies, are conspiring to destroy Christianity, want to turn all children into trans Marxists, and and so on and so on. If you believe your enemies are literally evil then you have a lot less problem justifying anything that subverts them. Even the ones who don't believe in Satan believe that the goal of Democrats is to enforce Stalinist Communism on them. It is a belief system totally disconnected from reality.

If you want to see how they see things, watch some Fox News, and you'll dip into their upside-down world. They just do not live in the same world as the rest of us, and have achieved total "epistemic closure." Of course, they would see the Democrat view of them — proto-or-outright fascist extremists hell-bent on destroying democracy, duped into serving the interests of billionaires and corporations, almost hopelessly misled by both domestic and foreign extremists — as being equally invalid (despite it being pretty easy to document, but part of that "closure" is that they reject serious evidence, and embrace the "throw everything at the wall" style of conspiracy theorists).

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ATK42 t1_itl2mlj wrote

This is a very disconnected from reality post my gosh 😂

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HI_Handbasket t1_itj7ewr wrote

They don't believe any of that, they are just incredibly and inexplicably stupid. Self-delusional trying to convince themselves that they aren't the villains, but they 100% are. What would Jesus do? Condemn Republicans and vote Democrat, absolutely.

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restricteddata t1_itjspvm wrote

I think a substantial proportion of them do believe that, or enough of it for them to look the other way. Even the "moderate, educated" GOP I have spoken to in person seem to believe quite a bit of it — not the Satanism, but the culture war stuff about immigration, gender identity, Communism, etc. They might not have 100% of their minds corrupted by the brain worms of right-wing media, but they have enough...

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HI_Handbasket t1_itr5je7 wrote

I was talking to a Trump supporter, and his delusion is GREAT, despite being an otherwise smart guy. He was talking about Hunter Biden being a felon and- "Wait, what? Hunter Biden is a felon? When did that happen?"

Him: Oh, he has multiple felonies.

Me: That would be news to me. Probably news to him as well. Show where and when, particularly the "multiple" part, he was convicted of any felonies.

Him: Oh, it's true, here, let me show you.

Proceeds to bring up right wing news sites that talk about the laptop, cocaine use, etc. But no felonies. Not even one.

Me: What did we learn today, C? That you need better news sources and you should probably not spread lies about people, right.

Him: mumble mumble

We have similar discussions like this almost every week, like the time he claimed that it was antifa and BLM who actually attacked the Capital on Jan 6th.

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RafeDangerous t1_itkosbp wrote

> They don't believe any of that

I've seen people literally using some of those exact talking points to defend this specific guy, and to attack democratic candidates for the school board in Pompton Lakes. Clearly not all republicans believe this, but let's not pretend it's entirely made up.

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