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machagogo t1_ispvlwo wrote

Guess your just giving the guy next to him a pass?

Also, seems the people he is with are not offended. Why do you feel the need to be offended for them?

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TheRacoonist t1_ispw7om wrote

It was a fashion show highlighting traditional Korean clothing

You can stop clutching those pearls

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ScipioAtTheGate OP t1_ispy4l5 wrote

Replying to TheRacoonist (#127,146)

Isn't that the very definition of cultural appropriation? If a white non-politician dressed up and participated in traditional Korean dress would not they be called out immediately for "cultural appropriation"?

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Head_Ologist t1_ispyk7b wrote

It’s not cultural appropriation if the people whose culture it is specifically invite you to wear that clothing for their event celebrating the cultural importance of that clothing.

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JekPorkinsTruther t1_ispz62b wrote

Replying to ScipioAtTheGate (#127,250)

Its not appropriation when members of that culture are inviting you to take part in their culture. That is called sharing culture. The definition of "appropriation" is taking something for your own use without permission.

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surfnsound t1_ispzf6g wrote

Replying to ScipioAtTheGate (#127,250)

No, cultural appropriation (as much as it is even a thing) is when you adopt aspects of a culture (clothing, language, food, music, etc.) without acknowledging the role that culture played in the development of those things. Based on the photo, they were clearly invited to take part in an event specifically honoring said culture.

Calling this cultural appropriation is the reach of all reaches.

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TheBravadoBoy t1_ispzg2o wrote

Replying to ScipioAtTheGate (#127,250)

Or cultural participation. I would need way more context about both the cultural practice and the planning of this event to be able to have a clue whether this is cultural appropriation. Just looking at a picture of someone participating in another group’s cultural event is not enough.

Especially as a white person, it would be naive if I just started looking up pictures of people participating in cultures that I don’t know anything about and claiming that appropriation is happening. Context is important.

Edit: according to that article, this is literally an educational event intended to spread awareness. So I’m leaning towards this probably not being appropriation until I see a good reason to think otherwise.

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SoNyeoShiDude t1_ispzzsi wrote

Replying to ScipioAtTheGate (#127,250)

Only when done in a disrespectful or exploitative way.

This was a cultural event that they were invited to by the local Korean community. It’s not like they’re just wearing them as some kind of fashion statement.

I’d appreciate actually listening to the Korean community on these issues before getting offended on our behalf.

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drew_marie t1_isq2dxe wrote

I don't even like Gottheimer, but literally calm down. He was invited to this event and is actively participating. I have no clue what race/ethnicity you are, but people actually like sharing their culture and traditions with people who don't share the same background. The idea that minority groups will somehow crumble because a white person wore their traditional outfit or ate their food without talking about it's cultural significance is so damn offensive. We can articulate on our own what we find offensive and don't need white people on social media getting angry on our behalf.

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NYRangers42 t1_isq6q14 wrote

Lol you can’t be serious. Have you ever been to an Indian wedding that has non-Indian folks in attendance? I think you would have a heart attack

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[deleted] t1_isqbz1h wrote

Participating in another person culture with respect (especially if invited to do so) is not appropriation. My god, how do seemingly adults live life being so intellectually and emotionally undeveloped?

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frayedmanifold t1_isqg1mo wrote

It's kind of ridiculous to accuse someone of "cultural appropriation" when the people in that culture invited them to participate. If we took your position to its logical conclusion, no one would be able to share in another person's culture (unless you have some kind of vetting system in mind LOL)

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JC0978 t1_isqjds5 wrote

Absurd post. Stop it.

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[deleted] t1_isqnqpd wrote

My pop was in the Navy and the only good thing that sorry son of a bitch did for me was take me shopping on base at McGuire AFB. First time seeing that South Korea flag and asking "where is this?". Very formative.

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FlyingJoey t1_isqzvwa wrote

Appropriation or Appreciation?

What’s the big FKing deal?

Clothes is clothes I wear stuff from different parts of the world inspired by different cultures. It’s a form of appreciation stop looking for BS excuses to play victim. Get a frigging shrink!

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SomeRealEstateGuy t1_isriv7v wrote

You’re the type of dude who reminds the teacher that she forgot to assign homework.

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Ithrowbot t1_isro86m wrote

Replying to TheRacoonist (#127,146)

Hanbok day is a recent cultural holiday in NJ, first observed last year (https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/bergen/tenafly/2021/10/22/hanbok-day-south-korea-celebration-tenafly-nj/8537783002/). It’s been a holiday in SK for almost three decades. Nowadays the hanbok doesn’t really come out except for special events like wedding couples attire or places where it’s incentivized/encouraged — there are historical sites like the royal palaces in Seoul where visitors can enter without paying admission if they show up wearing the hanbok.

As a both a New Jerseyan and a Korean-American, I would like to invite everyone to partake in Korean culture, cuisine, and fashion, year-round in NJ, whether in palisades or Edison or wherever.

As everyone has already pointed out, this wasn’t appropriation when it happened. And since I just gave a yearlong blanket invite, that should give us a break from further trolling k-posts by OP until next October.

Edit: wtf -> https://www.reddit.com/r/korea/comments/y6lq0y/cultural_appropriation_of_korean_traditional/ just stop and appreciate 🇰🇷

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