the_tea_weevil t1_jadjznc wrote
Reply to comment by Littlebotweak in Isla Bryson: Transgender rapist jailed for eight years by PEVEI
This person likely transitioned specifically to get into a women's prison so they could commit more crimes against women. There have been several cases of sex offenders and other criminals claiming to be trans either because they think they'll get special treatment or will be in a position to commit more crimes. I doubt most of them are actually trans.
This is one reason people are concerned about transwomen being in women's facilities. They should have their own separate facilities both for their own protection and to reduce people's motivation to transition in order to get into women's prisons.
Baka_Penguin t1_jadvna5 wrote
Do you have any sources for this? In the UK this doesn't appear to be a problem based on actual evidence: Source. In fact the evidence would suggest that trans women are far more likely to be sexually assaulted when placed with men, than cis women are when placed with trans women.
Saltire_Blue t1_jae2547 wrote
Once again
Trans prisoners are held in segregation until the Scottish Prison Service can carry out a risk assessment to determine where they can be incarcerated
As what happened with the above case, the SPS deemed they should be sent to a male prison
Do people genuinely believe they just let anyone into a women’s prison?
Use a bit of common sense
PEVEI OP t1_jae2ba4 wrote
Which came first, the Isla Bryson case, or the review of the system?
LowDownSkankyDude t1_jaebrfs wrote
This was published in 2011, so, the latter.
Edit- it appeared that you were implying that prisons are playing catchup, which isn't really the case. You're moving goalposts, now, and obfuscating. It's cool tho, maybe I misinterpreted...
PEVEI OP t1_jaecjo5 wrote
What in that article suggests the recent review started 12 years ago? Why engage in such a transparent deception? Let me save you any further bs.
> All transgender offenders entering the Scottish prison system will first be sent to jails that match their birth gender, in a reversal of the Scottish Prison Service’s (SPS) previous inclusive policy.
> The announcement came in an urgent review into the handling of the case of Isla Bryson, a transgender double rapist who was initially sent to a female prison, resulting in a public outcry.
> While it does not appear to be a blanket ban on trans prisoners ever being accommodated in prisons that match their acquired gender, the new protocol supersedes previous guidelines, developed with the Scottish Trans Alliance. These stated that any transgender person taken into custody should be held in a prison that matches the gender they were living in within the community, pending a full risk assessment.
> After the Bryson case, the SPS announced a full case review for every transgender person currently in prison custody will be completed.
You should have taken a page from /u/Saltire_Blue 's book and run away once it was clear the game was up.
Saltire_Blue t1_jaed6oc wrote
Can’t believe you tagged me in a comment that shows you up
Congratulations
NoCommunication4350 t1_jae93to wrote
Nobody is transitioning to get into women's prisons. You have never spoken to a trans person, have you? You have no idea what transitioning actually entails.
A cis person doesn't just decide to do it for some sort of perk. You would be forcing extreme dysphoria upon yourself. All this propaganda about trans people is absurd. This is just as dumb as those who claim LGBT are out there "converting" people into LGBT, like some sort of zombie or vampire.
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