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didsomebodysaymyname t1_j8by3x1 wrote

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>I mean, at some point we need to, as a nation, decide if we're ok with involuntary incarceration of people who haven't committed a crime to prevent them from committing crimes in the future.

I'm gonna vote no on indefinitely imprisoning people who haven't done anything yet.

We incarcerate more people than any country, not more than any developed country, any country.

And we still don't have the lowest crime rate.

What we need to do as a nation is accept that not providing healthcare to everyone, and letting children grow up in poverty isn't working.

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OperationMobocracy t1_j8d44qa wrote

I think the issue isn't involuntary commitment always being dystopian, its what we do with involuntary commitment in terms of how the institutions are run and the access people have to get released from it. It's at least theoretically possible to have involuntary commitment that is humane.

I think most cities are seeing the results of what happens when we mostly can't involuntarily commit people -- drug addiction, homeless camps, and some dangerous behavior towards other people. Many of these people will reject any kind of voluntary treatment, and its a big problem. We're giving people who have mental health problems more agency than they actually have to reject treatment.

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