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[deleted] t1_j95oz1a wrote

Reply to comment by Chippopotanuse in 1 person dies when Tesla hits fire truck on I-680, 4 firefighters injured by twelveparsnips

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Chippopotanuse t1_j95psyk wrote

How many of those cars claim to have “full self driving“ and have people doing everything from reading the newspaper on the highway to taking a nap while the car is going 70 miles an hour.

Sure, the fine print says “but there has to be a human ready to take control at all times!“

But there’s only one auto maker that brags about their self driving hardware. And so yeah, it is newsworthy when the one company who claims they can do it is failing spectacularly at it. And getting people killed.

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[deleted] t1_j95qsbq wrote

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Chippopotanuse t1_j95rlgv wrote

They all had autopilot engaged. You can ignore reality if you’d like.

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jenkinsleroi t1_j95tq03 wrote

Your statistic is meaningless unless it's normalized by number of miles driven. And I suspect the number of miles driven by non Tesla cars is way higher.

Plus autopilot should mean that they're much less likely to crash into a stopped vehicle on the side of the road.

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Chippopotanuse t1_j95uvbc wrote

It’s not my statistic. It’s the NHTSA investigating crashes.

If you think your hand waving is enough to overcome the legitimate concerns the NHTSA has here…please see if Tesla will hire you as their general counsel in charge of regulatory oversight.

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[deleted] t1_j95xvvj wrote

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Chippopotanuse t1_j95zckj wrote

You are less informed than your think.

Elon talks about autopilot and full self driving interchangeably.

Go listen to him in 2019 when speaking with Cathie Wood’s Ark Podcast:

“My guess as to when we would think it is safe for somebody to essentially fall asleep and wake up at their destination: probably toward the end of next year. I would say I am certain of that. That is not a question mark.”

It’s 2023 now. Not 2020.

And Tesla isn’t anywhere near capable of having someone fall asleep and arrive at their destination in any safe manner.

Elon didn’t speak unequivocally back in 2019 about this. He didn’t say “hey we are working on something cool that might happen someday.”

He guaranteed it: “I would say I’m certain of that. It’s not a question mark.”

He has promised consumers for years that they can do these things.

He’s a liar and you’re being duped. And more than one person who believed his statements are now dead.

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FrontierRoad t1_j95somg wrote

I was thinking the same thing I'm sure plenty of ford pintos are plowing into things but never here a word.

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Chippopotanuse t1_j969uy9 wrote

Can you put me to the press release where the Ford CEO guaranteed that Pinto owners could fall asleep behind the wheel and safely arrive at their destination?

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