chi_type t1_j86i2kq wrote on February 12, 2023 at 12:21 AM

Reply to comment by empfindsamkeit in Family of Oakland baker seeks 'restorative justice' for her death following robbery by IAmNotARobot124

Most rapists already get at least one freebie. Rape is very rarely successfully prosecuted and receiving jail time is even rarer. 25 out of 1000 rapists will be incarcerated.

Perhaps a different approach would get the justice system to do ANYTHING about it.

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system

empfindsamkeit t1_j86iabo wrote on February 12, 2023 at 12:23 AM

Then we're talking about freebies upon freebies. Even if it's particularly heinous and you're caught dead to rights, we're going to let you off with a warning and some counseling.

chi_type t1_j86you3 wrote on February 12, 2023 at 2:33 AM

You should look into what restorative justice actually involves. It's not probation or a suspended sentence. It's nothing like what you're describing. First of all - victim involvement and discretion is a key part of the process.

empfindsamkeit t1_j87ae37 wrote on February 12, 2023 at 4:14 AM

Ah, well the good news then is that victims can already do that in many cases either by not reporting the crime, not pressing charges, or declining to testify, and they could hold that over the perpetrator's head to get them to meet and talk things out. And if they need government force to get the perpetrator to sit down with them then I dunno why you'd think they were being sincere in their contrition in that case. But I'd wager the vast, vast majority of victims want nothing to do with it and so it's all moot.

chi_type t1_j893tj1 wrote on February 12, 2023 at 4:03 PM

Okay I see you still didn't look into what it actually involves. Never mind I guess

empfindsamkeit t1_j89sefq wrote on February 12, 2023 at 6:49 PM

Or you could summarize. I don't just read about any random topic someone puts in front of me without being at least somewhat sold on it first. It doesn't seem like anyone else knows what it actually involves either because everyone is just linking random websites and telling you to "look into it". No thanks.