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MGD109 t1_ja5nsi1 wrote

Reply to comment by blahbleh112233 in Israelis, Palestinians pledge to curb violence at Jordan meeting by Hiversitize

Well that's true, but hasn't Israel already offered them multiple treaties that would give them ownerships of large sections (as in nearly 90%) of the disputed land, which Hamas has just rejected out of hand?

Trouble is I don't think their is going to be a viable peace until the people at the top of both nations no longer profit out of the war.

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MeatsimPD t1_ja83ihg wrote

> hasn't Israel already offered them multiple treaties that would give them ownerships of large sections (as in nearly 90%) of the disputed land, which Hamas has just rejected out of hand?

No. You should provide sources for such a claim.

Here's the last peace deal offered and the only one to include formal borders. It was rejected by the Palestinians (who weren't invited to the meeting) and the Jewish settlers organization

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

Edit: Hamas has rejected peace offers, the Palestinian Authority has not rejected any offer for "90% of disputed territory" nor has such an offer been made

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burningphoenix77888 t1_ja6prvv wrote

“Nearly 90%”

Aka, not all. The West Bank should be entirely Palestinian. The “peace deals” have the most fertile land in the West Bank stolen from Palestine and would have left Palestine a dead and demilitarized husk.

If there is to be peace. It must be the pre67 borders straight up. No modifications. No “land swaps”. The pre67 borders straight up is the only fair solution

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JoeShmoAfro t1_ja7ne5i wrote

So in 48 Jewish leadership accepted the partition plan and established a new state. The Palestinian leadership rejected it, and together with the neighbouring arab states waged war on the new Jewish state. The newly declared state was not defeated.

Go to 1967, and Israel wins a defensive war against its neighbouring Arab states (including the state that had control of the West Bank - Jordan). Israel wins the war, is not annihilated, and gains territory.

Basically, you think that a state that has gained territory in defensive wars, wars in which it's enemies have tried to wipe it off the map, should just give back the land it gained?

Out of interest, why didn't the Jordanians let the Palestinians establish a state in the West Bank between 48 and 67?

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try_another8 t1_ja8bj0c wrote

"Hey, we tried to genocide you, but we lost. It's only fair if we get to keep everything and suffer no consequences"

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