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deaddonkey t1_je9d28j wrote

Blackhawks have a very nasty habit of doing this too

Edit; ok guys Blackhawks are a safe helicopter that rarely crashes because they are cool and black, you are right

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d_wib t1_je9mslr wrote

I mean the Air Force flies the Pave Hawk which is more or less the same thing. I don’t think it’d be an issue with the airframe

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Jean-Rasczak t1_je9vzvs wrote

We used to call em Crashhawks when I was in

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deaddonkey t1_jeazmxi wrote

Yeah I’m getting downvoted but they factually have a shitload of crashes, I think some people don’t even realise this happens several times per year every year for the last 3 decades

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Jean-Rasczak t1_jebb1z1 wrote

The seats are meant to collapse in the event of hard landings and crashes. I always felts unsafe in one those and the shithooks

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MNWNM t1_jec4ozc wrote

To be fair, the Black Hawk that crashed last month in Alabama was an A model, which hasn't been produced since 1989. It was flown and maintained by a National Guard division, which often gets hand-me-downs from the Army. For a helicopter this old, its safety is largely dependent on how well it's maintained. Parts do degrade and break.

The helicopter that crashed today was an HH-60, a Medevac model. They collided in the air under NVG conditions, which is inherently dangerous because of the limited scope of viewing range due to the goggles. A collision like this doesn't reflect poorly on the safety of the airframe itself, but I would question if any C&W (caution and warning) systems alerted the pilots of the imminent collision. Investigators will also be looking heavily into the pilot's training record, and if proper flight protocols were followed leading up to the crash.

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Edward_Snowcone t1_je9vjl3 wrote

Yeah, not nearly as much as the osprey the marines use.

Hell, even the Chinooks the army uses have a bleak track record. Blackhawks are pretty decent birds

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CW1DR5H5I64A t1_je9vx3f wrote

The Osprey has one of the safest flight records of any airframe. They had a rough patch when they were initially adopted, but that was mostly pilot error. Once they got better training programs it has not had issues.

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Edward_Snowcone t1_je9yvmi wrote

Alright I did look it up, your right. I think my perception was skewed by the initial flight testing having lots of crashes. My bad

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__Arty__ t1_jea45hy wrote

That was a big thing during the initial trials of the Osprey. It had a handful of really high profile accidents and the media reported it as this insane death trap that killed anyone that looked at it.

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C-c-c-comboBreaker17 t1_je9wjt4 wrote

Transport helicopters are meant to be disposable. There's a reason we made so many.

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