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[deleted] t1_jdxl3a1 wrote

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toomuchtodotoday t1_jdxtoji wrote

Educated, empowered women have less children or no children. Keep empowering women and ensuring they have robust access to contraceptives.

https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate

https://ourworldindata.org/fertility-rate#what-explains-the-change-in-the-number-of-children-women-have

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peepjynx t1_jdyriqm wrote

The section on France was particularly interesting.

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cogrothen t1_jdxy9jz wrote

In much of the world, it is declining birth rates that are leading the population to fall. Food is not a bottleneck at all. Why would lab grown meats suddenly lead to more population growth?

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FrostByte_62 t1_jdyn9wj wrote

It wouldn't because such a trend completely ignores factors like socioeconomics or societal disposition on reproduction.

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HardlyDecent t1_jdzlfhp wrote

And distribution... We've technically had enough food for everyone and Mars since like the 50s.

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chess_1010 t1_jdxwrfp wrote

The limiting factor to agriculture is the need for nitrate and phosphate. Nitrate fertilizer is made industrially from natural gas. Phosphate is largely mined. An emerging problem is that the world's topsoil is deteriorating at a high rate.

It's not a question of lab grown meats and fats: it's the core staple products of wheat, rice, corn, and soybeans. These supply the wold's calories, either directly or indirectly, and they cannot exist without natural gas and mined phosphate. Lab grown foods will still need feed, likely to come from some combo of soy and corn. It doesn't get us around this problem.

When exactly this could be a problem is a subject of speculation. I think Malthus was probably too pessimistic, and was focused on the wrong parts of the issue. Current pessimistic predictions have us either exhausting our easy phosphate supply, or destroying our topsoils, long before we use all the available natural gas.

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Safe_Indication_6829 t1_jdz5exn wrote

Malthus made back of the envelope calculations a couple hundred years ago, was wrong, never became right, and yet people still use him to justify killing poor people (always the poor, no Malthusian ever suggests starting at the top)

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