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pegothejerk t1_jd6ammy wrote

Chinese law stipulates that all tech companies must give data to the govt upon request and the request must be kept secret. That’s all you need to know, that’s an unacceptable risk for national security.

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honeybooboobro t1_jd6tucm wrote

Today we were checking traffic in our guest wifi, seems like Huawei phones use Chinese DNS servers, despite them not showing anywhere in the config on the phone itself. Winnie the Pooh wants to know your kinks.

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EvangelineOfSky t1_jd6zl6p wrote

Canada banned Huawei from our cellular networks, surprised other countries haven't

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honeybooboobro t1_jd71t5b wrote

Our state intelligence service released a public warning, but it's up to the other state institutions and private companies to act upon it. We have company policy against it as well, that's why we only found out by checking guest network, which is walled off.

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dwitman t1_jd7ne85 wrote

US. Has basically the same law.

Edit: due to the patriot act passed hastily after 911, if the NSA tells a company to turn over data they have a documented way of doing it in which the company is never allowed to say it happened due to national security concerns.

That’s why there used to be a line in terms of service of various companies stating this had never happened. These lines functioned as a security canary, meaning if they were deleted that could mean the NSA did one of those requests and the company was forced to hand over some or all of its user data. This very site use to have such a canary. It no longer does.

So that’s some additional context. Kindly now resume the downvotes.

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eniteris t1_jd76mma wrote

Isn't that exactly the same in the USA under the FISA and the Patriot Act?

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pegothejerk t1_jd7t8e6 wrote

The US relaxed it’s gag orders in 2014, and there’s a process for requiring that data that leaves a paper trail, which can be studied by courts. It’s also from the US, and not by a competitor nation known to steal intellectual property, a nation state that you can’t touch with information requests about what data or investigations they have on you at all. Am I thrilled what the US has done and presumably will do? Definitely not, but there is a huge difference between the interests and problems between which nation gets data on which citizens.

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