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stevenmacarthur t1_jbmcpgp wrote
"'Conventional wisdom for the past four decades has been that smaller group sizes tend to make better decisions...' said Republican Sen. Adam Lowe of Calhoun."
Then why don't they vote to halve the size of every city council in the entire state?
So much for the party of Local Control...
Averyphotog t1_jbmcsr7 wrote
“This will set us back decades,” said Democratic Sen Charlane Oliver, a Black lawmaker from Nashville. “This will disproportionately impact the Black representation, the minority representation and dilute — not just dilute — it will steal and silence our voices.”
Which is entirely the point, of course.
rikki-tikki-deadly t1_jbme13r wrote
"Which is why we in the GOP have consistently advocated for a return to the monarchy..."
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biggsteve81 t1_jbmm0gf wrote
TBH it is weird that the Tennessee State Senate has fewer members (33) than the Nashville Metro Council (40).
taco-bake t1_jbmmveo wrote
Glad I left Tennessee before it goes full antebellum
AlexKingstonsGigolo t1_jbmp3gt wrote
Question: when cutting a council in half, is it better to do it longways or cross ways? If you leave them with a torso, you only get charged with maiming. Slicing them in two along the spine is liable to have you charged with murder.
AlexKingstonsGigolo t1_jbmp8k6 wrote
Mathematics, however, shows the optimal legislature size is approximately the cube root of the population.
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yawetag12 t1_jbmufnd wrote
You keep the inner half while removing the outer half.
Real_Durindana t1_jbmvhyi wrote
> there’s a reason, I think, why Christ walked with 12 of his disciples
… because He didn’t want them fuckin bickering? That’s new
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AlexKingstonsGigolo t1_jbmy8xz wrote
Oh, cored like an apple? That's gruesome.
DontTazeMehBr0 t1_jbmzrnu wrote
Republicans: We want people to have freedom from big government and be able to exercise their rights
The people: reject trying to host the RNC, try to limit short term rentals (airbnb) profiteering in a housing crisis, try to decriminalize minor marijuana possession, manage their own stadiums and airports, have diverse and representative local governments
Republicans: No, not like that
Coulrophiliac444 t1_jbn09c5 wrote
More like a skin suit for the reptiles leading the way
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tor93 t1_jbn71fc wrote
This happened to us up in Toronto a few years ago!!!
rntaboy t1_jbnblzl wrote
'“Conventional wisdom for the past four decades has been that smaller group sizes tend to make better decisions and this is the largest council that we see,” said Republican Sen. Adam Lowe of Calhoun. ”... There’s a reason why we’re judged by 12 of our peers in a jury and there’s a reason, I think, why Christ walked with 12 of his disciples.”
First, lol.
Second, Dude is one of 33 state senators.
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jungles_fury t1_jbnzo8u wrote
The Republican war on Nashville and Memphis continues
kandoras t1_jbo2dbb wrote
>Republican Sen. Adam Lowe of Calhoun. ”... There’s a reason why we’re judged by 12 of our peers in a jury and there’s a reason, I think, why Christ walked with 12 of his disciples.”
The Tennessee state senate has 33 members.
I doubt we'll see this guy volunteering to quit his job so that state government is mor Christ-like.
Drewy99 t1_jbo2fjg wrote
Republicans only know how to operate on bad faith.
There is not a productive bone in their bodies.
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malphonso t1_jbo6ymq wrote
Christ, well known for engaging with the democratic process and seeking group consensus before flipping tables and beating moneychangers.
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wswordsmen t1_jbobiwb wrote
And we know why Christ had 12 disciples, the twelve tribes of Judea.
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effinmetal t1_jbodq1o wrote
Fucking same.
littleuniversalist t1_jboe3lz wrote
Premiere of Ontario (where I live) did this to Toronto. Lead to some serious problems, but I’m sure that’s the point
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Konukaame t1_jboh9c7 wrote
And in Arizona, Republicans are trying to completely abolish the city councils of blue cities.
It seems they've decided on their next step on the road to ending democracy.
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coskibum002 t1_jbokm2m wrote
The hypocrisy is deafening...
InsuranceToTheRescue t1_jbon7gl wrote
I don't know what his source is, but if this were implemented then the US House would be something like 678 or 679.
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Magatha_Grimtotem t1_jbooadb wrote
Jesus: "Ah, looks like you're last to grab a bagel again Judas, I'd give it to you but then Mary wouldn't have a bagel, sorry bro!"
DarthBrooks69420 t1_jboploz wrote
Sabotaging urban area governments and screaming about urban areas having ineffective governments, name a more iconic Conservative duo.
Zerole00 t1_jbosf6v wrote
>So much for the party of Local Control...
Are any non-Republicans actually dumb enough to believe they argue this kinda thing in good faith?
buscoamigos t1_jbou183 wrote
THIS is why I would never move to a blue city in a red state.
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Bitter_Director1231 t1_jbp3pwm wrote
And the Lt. Governor of TN that puts out anti LGBTQ laws, is too busy cruising social media looking for gay men.
jschubart t1_jbp5zt9 wrote
The House should be much bigger.
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QuietRock t1_jbpe5to wrote
We saw something similar in Arizona. The republican legislature tried to strip local governments, specifically charter cities, of their autonomy. This would allow the state GOP to impose its will upon locals, regardless of local wishes. Another attempt by the GOP to usurp and consolidate power.
InsuranceToTheRescue t1_jbpf548 wrote
We should just institute the Wyoming Rule and be done with it. Reapportion House seats and increase their number so that each district has, as close as possible, the same number of reps per capita as the smallest constituent state.
So, for example, Wyoming's at large district has 578,803 people, making it the least populated state. The last census, under this rule, would have increased the number of House reps and reapportioned them all to each state so that, as best as possible, each rep is representing about 578,803 people.
girhen t1_jbpk46p wrote
We've seriously hampered the balance of Congress by hard capping the number of Representatives like we have. Some small states getting the benefit of both houses of Congress when only the Senate was meant for the smaller states to benefit.
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pk10534 t1_jbplyhs wrote
I mean, the religious comment was stupid, but this puts Nashville more in line with other large cities and makes sense. Chicago’s ridiculous number of aldermen has absolutely hindered its performance, and there’s no reason Nashville needs 3x the councilmen of cities like Boston and DC with even fewer people under its jurisdiction. And plenty of cities with minority-majority populations that are located in blue states also have vastly smaller city councils than Nashville’s (which has 40 members), so I just don’t buy that this is some racist, undemocratic power grab
owlbrain t1_jbpm24w wrote
Not getting into the politics of the situation, but they did legitimately have a crazy large city council. 40 people?! Memphis, which is just barely smaller than Nashville, has only 13. For an out of state example, Chicago has almost 4x as many people as Nashville and has a 50 person City Council.
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fight_your_friends t1_jbppjt5 wrote
Size aside, I thought the GOP was in favor of local control.
veringer t1_jbpqyim wrote
// Cries in Knoxvillian
veringer t1_jbprciv wrote
One would presume it became that way because the citizens of that city wanted it like that, so yeah it probably is an undemocratic...something
pk10534 t1_jbps6jz wrote
If the citizens of a town in California wanted to refuse to recognize gay marriage, it’s “undemocratic” for the state to circumvent that? I mean sure, by some definition it is, but that doesn’t mean it’s illegal or wrong for legislation to pass if residents of a city disagree with it
comments_suck t1_jbpuvmq wrote
I think it already has. I don't recognize Tennessee anymore.
comments_suck t1_jbpv7ov wrote
Nashville is a Metro government, though. Meaning that the city and the county it is in are combined. I've never lived there, but if they think 40 seats are good, who am I to argue with them?
veringer t1_jbpvb3s wrote
Not sure if it's accurate or fair to compare a city council's size with (checks notes), a civil liberty that's been adjudicated by the SCOTUS.
Overcriticalengineer t1_jbpxaow wrote
It’s well-known that Jesus invented the Baker’s Dozen.
owlbrain t1_jbq25ti wrote
Nashville is effectively the entire county by population. 690,000 of the 716,000 in the county live in Nashville city limits.
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EmotionalSuportPenis t1_jbqdglf wrote
I'd imagine the scene was a whole lot more chaotic and active in reality than the account lets on. Just think of every modern video where some disgruntled person walks in somewhere and starts breaking shit.
If time travel was a thing, that's one of the events I'd want to watch, and I'm not even Christian. I'd be there to watch the completely dumbfounded priest awkwardly trying to figure out what to do in the background, the temple guard getting run over by the stampede of people, the disciple throwing whatever was to hand, and the enterprising gentleman stealing everything he could get his hands on in the chaos and then running for the door. You know they were all there.
Prodigy195 t1_jbqusku wrote
When they realized that demographic changes in the us were going to make difficult for them to win democratically they just decided to throw away democracy.
theknyte t1_jbr1occ wrote
We live in a instant communication digital age. Congress and the House shouldn't even need to vote on anything anymore. They should be there to represent their districts, and write bills that their constituents want. Then, like once a month, there's a national vote on all propose bills.
The end.
girhen t1_jbtsbet wrote
The also have committees where they do research, debate bills on the floor for all to discuss, and interview people. No, they do need to be there fairly frequently for in-person activities.
Angeleno88 t1_jbuxlni wrote
I get the frustration over the state government getting involved as it appears to just be a retaliatory move and not out of concern for the taxpayers. However let’s be honest with ourselves that 40 is a ridiculously excessive number for a council like that. I live in Los Angeles and we have 15. Don’t tell me that Nashville justifiably needs 40 people on a council. Having that many people reeks of fraud, waste, and abuse. Even 20 is reasonably too high once factoring their population.
waffebunny t1_jbve4uv wrote
I’m most likely preaching to the choir here, but:
Republicans have only one goal: to tilt the balance of power in favor of themselves (and potentially their base); either by granting themselves more influence, or by stripping it from others.
This is why they claim to value tradition, moderation, small government, fiscal responsibility, and family values: because their actual agenda is wholly unappealing to anyone outside their group.
As we can see in the example above however, Republicans will quickly betray their own purported values when doing so will forward their efforts to seize power.
Long_Serpent t1_jbyexd4 wrote
Vertically or by the waist?
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