Bagdana t1_iu8l5ve wrote
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> oppresses an ethnic minority within its own borders?
The book is set in Ramallah. This has nothing to do with minorities within Israel borders. Ethnic minorities in Israel have full civil rights and they are not subjected to oppression or legal discrimination by Israel. And the oppression this book alleges is completely detached from current reality. When for the past 20 years has Israel imposed curfews as a response to terror attacks?
HanaBothWays t1_iu8ldqv wrote
If you look on Google Maps, what country is Ramallah in?
Bagdana t1_iu8mhdm wrote
On Google Maps, there's a stipulated border between the West Bank and Israel. But interesting to see that you are taking the Israeli right-wing position that all the territory belongs to Israel
HanaBothWays t1_iu8msvn wrote
Oh, give me a break. It’s certainly Israel’s position that the West Bank belongs to Israel and in every practical sense they treat it that way.
Gaza also in theory does not belong to Israel, but Israel feels free to decide what people and things can and can’t go into Gaza, and to drop bombs on it.
Bagdana t1_iu8orv5 wrote
> Oh, give me a break. It’s certainly Israel’s position that the West Bank belongs to Israel and in every practical sense they treat it that way.
No it's not. The Israeli position is that it is under occupation. They certainly don't treat it as if it is part of the country. Then they would annex it and give all residents Israeli citizenship, like they did in Golan and Eastern Jerusalem.
> Gaza also in theory does not belong to Israel, but Israel feels free to decide what people and things can and can’t go into Gaza, and to drop bombs on it.
So having a controlled border with a territory means that the territory belongs to you? Of course Israel will not let materials used for weapons etc. go to Hamas. A weapons blockade is fully legal. Around 300 truckloads of food, medical supplies etc. go into Gaza every day from Israel. Egypt also has a border, but does not allow goods through their crossing. Does this mean that Gaza belongs to Egypt?
HanaBothWays t1_iu8p8sr wrote
The Israeli position is that the West Bank is under occupation like the Russian position is that what they’re doing in Ukraine is a “special operation” and not an invasion.
Bagdana t1_iu8pupf wrote
The Israeli position on this matter is completely in line with the international community. No country recognises that the West Bank is part of Israel. There is a consensus that the territory is under belligerent occupation, or תפיסה לוחמתית in Hebrew.
You are the one promoting the Israeli hard-right position that the West Bank is part of Israel...
HanaBothWays t1_iu8q3cn wrote
Israel promotes the position that the West Bank is part of Israel all the time by bulldozing Palestinian houses there and allowing settlements to be built there. It doesn’t matter what they say in theory or what I think it is. The bulldozers and the brick and mortar are what matter. I have spoken.
Bagdana t1_iu8r3w5 wrote
Israel demolishes some structures that are built without permits. That's part of their obligations as an occupying power. And they do this for Jewish outposts as well, particularly if they are built on private Palestinian land. They have demolished around 50 Jewish outposts, such as Amona, Netiv Ha'avot, Homesh, Migron, Maoz Esther, Kumi Ori, Evyatar, Ulpana etc.
HanaBothWays t1_iu8sjsn wrote
> Israel demolishes some structures that are built without permits. That’s part of their obligations as an occupying power.
Whaaaat a bunch of baloney.
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