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[deleted] t1_ismv0nb wrote

Reply to comment by cassidy026 in Woman, 80, on tricycle dies after Orange County hit-and-run crash, troopers say by Darzanak

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TheDoughyRider t1_ismvkd9 wrote

Yes, but as a licensed operator of a two ton piece of machinery you have a duty to help a person you hit.

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[deleted] t1_isn0k9h wrote

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DantesDivineConnerdy t1_isn5d6v wrote

You aren't actually debating anything, just being extremely pedantic about legal terms that often mean different things in different states and countries. There's no reason anyone needs to reference a specific murder charge to call this murder-- murder itself at its most basic level means an unjustified killing. But legally speaking, murder is often referenced in this exact situation: depraved heart murder or third degree murder.

Vehicular manslaughter is another very specific legal term that only exists in certain places, so it's unreasonable for you to expect people to change their colloquial definitions of murder based on that. Even so, this is likely going to be far more serious than vehicular manslaughter-- which is what it would have been if the driver actually stopped and called 911. The fact that they drove away really bumps this up to potentially some kind of legal murder charge, and colloquially at least it is perfectly accurate to call them a murderer.

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cas13f t1_isnvspt wrote

>But legally speaking, murder is often referenced in this exact situation: depraved heart murder or third degree murder.

With some crossover (or replaced) with "Negligent Homicide" in some jurisdictions.

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cassidy026 t1_ismvdbd wrote

I guess I get what you’re saying but… This person still took the life of another human being. To make matters worse, they fled. That stupid decision just added another charge.

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[deleted] t1_isn0dp2 wrote

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tomtttttttttttt t1_isnc26p wrote

They left the scene, that makes them a villain and the death something beyond accidental or even negligent.

Panicked or not that was a deliberate choice and they are rightly being painted the villain for it.

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wiewiorka6 t1_isn2ltu wrote

People choose to drive. They know the extreme risks they take every time they put themselves behind the wheel. If they can’t deal with being potentially a murderer and all of the consequences that go with that, they shouldn’t be driving.

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[deleted] t1_isn4ljg wrote

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lightlybaked t1_isoojl2 wrote

My favorite comments are the ones trying to argue semantics. Like dude… it doesn’t make you sound smart nor add anything of value

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RunningTrisarahtop t1_isnnlo7 wrote

No.

I run and bike and walk on roads and if someone hits me they don’t get to have a moment of fucking panic and just leave me there.

This person killed her. They were driving a giant vehicle and didn’t pay enough attention and they killed her and left her like she was trash.

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dlc741 t1_isp5tia wrote

And are you stupid enough to think that the driver "didn't intend" to leave the scene of the accident and a woman lying on the side of the road?

You're a horrible person.

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