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Longwalk4AShortdrink t1_itsdzhr wrote

Reply to comment by Sayonee99 in At least three Palestinians killed in Israeli raids on Nablus by DavidMalony

As much as I love the irrelevant insults and repeated attempts to redirect, I'd much prefer and answer to my question:

What do you have against the Jewish people having a homeland (zionism)?

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Sayonee99 t1_itsf1mc wrote

>What do you have against the Jewish people having a homeland (zionism)?

Jewish people are lovely people and just as innocent as any other innocent human being. Why give them a homeland? What for? They came from europe when escaping the nazis, now thr nazis are gone. Why cant they go back?

Why do you support a nation state? Why only jews? Because you're one? Why are jews put above everyone else? Why do american tax payers have to literally fund a nation state?

Im about done with your stupidity and ignorance. May the jews of the world be safe along with all other innocent people from all backgrounds (even palestinian worshippers in aqsa mosque who are regularly targetted by the idf for praying...).

If zionism means the killing of innocent palestinians, then fuck zionism. If jews and Palestinians (muslims and Christians) can get equal rights and live peacefully, then im all for it.

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Longwalk4AShortdrink t1_itsh19o wrote

> Why give them a homeland? What for?

Centuries of hate, bigotry and/or genocide towards the Jewish people from most countries. The Holocaust, the Gentlemens agreements, the Iranian Revolution, the Pogroms, the Muslim World Exile, the Spanish Inquisition... I feel like that's plenty of reasons.

> They came from europe when escaping the nazis, now thr nazis are gone. Why cant they go back?

Jews are originally from the Middle East. Also what's to stop something like the Nazis from coming back? Germany was a modern, tolerant country for Jews right up until it wasn't.

> Why do you support a nation state?

Because that's what most of the planet looks like

> Why only jews? Because you are one?

My being jewish doesnt mean i only care about jews. Careful, that was almost a strawman fallacy.

> Why are jews put above everyone else?

They aren't, I dont know where you're getting that from.

> Why do american tax payers have to literally fund a nation state?

Sounds like a question for your politician

> even palestinian worshippers in aqsa mosque who are regularly targetted by the idf for praying

For praying? Yeah gunna need a source for that

> If zionism means the killing of innocent palestinians, then fuck zionism.

Not what zionism means, here's the definition since you seem to be struggling: zionism

Ultimately it seems that you're not against Jews having a homeland (great! So you're not anti-zionist). You seem more upset at the consequences of zionism being applied in a specific case to a specific region. Very different. Like you hating oil stains, not oily foods

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Sayonee99 t1_itsl4z9 wrote

>Also what's to stop something like the Nazis from coming back?

Wow! Wtf did i just read... Holy shit can't believe you said that god damn. Ye we're done here.

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Longwalk4AShortdrink t1_itslus9 wrote

Lol that's what sent you over the edge? Nazis still exist in most Western countries, especially in Europe and North America. You know that right?

So if they still CURRENTLY exist, what's to prevent something like Nazi Germany again? Hungary, North Korea, Myanmar and Iran are running a lot of parallels to the policy of 1930s-1940s Germany

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