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TheMotorcycleBoy t1_iuf1kze wrote

Elections everywhere are shady as shit.

What really stops us (these days) just attaching polling chits to passports / bank accounts / Social Security accounts (?) - or enabling a system of online registration with a unique ID?

It's almost as if they want to make it tricky for young / poor / educated and mobile people to vote.🤔

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notcaffeinefree t1_iufejrc wrote

By far the easiest to implement would be to make the day a national holiday and to allow everyone to vote by mail, no questions asked.

There's a reason voting by mail has been targeted so heavily the past few years, even though a number of states have been doing it for over a decade.

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skyfishgoo t1_iufyc8y wrote

what usually stops this sort of idea is the fact that a secret ballot is key to an open democracy.

if you can be held personally responsible for your vote, then that information WILL be used against you at some point.

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BadBunnyYonaguni t1_iuf3gpl wrote

If you thought election fraud is bad now, imagine how horrific it would be if it was connected to the internet. There’s a reason why online elections are usually stereotyped as being very easily spoofed.

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TheMotorcycleBoy t1_iuf4l2c wrote

Yeah. Because there aren't billions of completely secure banking transactions going through effortlessly every day?

Almost all fraud is the consequence of poor user practice / weak passwords / personal security failings etc.

Don't buy into those lies, dude. If online voting was insecure we wouldn't have online banking and online commerce.

It's just a line sold to get the older (more Conservative) people to agree to restrict voting access to mobile / time-poor / poor (more left-leaning) voters.

(And no, voter fraud is not bad now and never has been more than a small percentage of total votes cast.)

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PaxDramaticus t1_iugo3j6 wrote

With ebanking, you want your name attached to every transaction you make. The whole point of voting is to detach your name from who you voted for.

Systems that are anonymous, easy to access, and hard to cheat in are quite difficult design challenges. Framing the fact that they haven't been implemented on a wide scale as a conspiracy doesn't make those design challenges easier.

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Fine_Fault_8232 t1_iufam23 wrote

But with ebanking there are many checkpoints. you can see who sent money, who received it, time and date, the amount. With evoting you would only have the preferred candidate, which would make it harder to verify the authenticity of the ballot.

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TheMotorcycleBoy t1_iufbygr wrote

What? That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of it works.

All those transmitted variables you cited are (pretty obviously) present in both types of transactions. (Apart from the ‘preferred candidate’ thing - but you could substitute ‘value’ for that couldn’t you? Same deal.)

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Jeraimee t1_iuf4mu4 wrote

I'd vote for President McPresidentface.

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